Hello! Since merging dwm and wmii lists were merged into this list, Gmane newsgroups are somewhat broken. Here is my conversation with Wolfgang Schnerring, one of Gmane admins, from gmane.discuss group.
> From: Dmitry Maluka <dmitrymaluka <at> gmail.com> > Subject: Newsgroup for dev <at> suckless.org > Newsgroups: gmane.discuss > Date: 2009-07-24 19:53:12 GMT (16 hours and 11 minutes ago) > Hello! > > Some time ago maillists for dwm and wmii window managers > (dwm <at> suckless.org and wmii <at> suckless.org respectively) were merged > into a > single list dev <at> suckless.org. Now gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii maps > into this new list, and gmane.comp.window-managers.dwm maps into the > obsolete dwm <at> suckless.org. > > Probably, the users that will try to find a newsgroup for dwm will be > confused finding an outdated group. Also, the dev <at> suckless.org list (in > past - the dwm <at> suckless.org list) contains messages not only on dwm > or wmii but on any suckless.org software development related topics. > > I think it is reasonable to rename gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii to > gmane.comp.suckless or similar, and create its "mirror" groups named > gmane.comp.window-managers.dwm and gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii. If > it is impossible, the group name should contain words "dwm" and "wmii". > For old lists, we can create gmane.comp.window-managers.dwm.old and > gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii.old. > > > From: Wolfgang Schnerring <wosc+gmane <at> wosc.de> > Subject: Re: Newsgroup for dev <at> suckless.org > Newsgroups: gmane.discuss > Date: 2009-07-25 06:46:13 GMT (5 hours and 19 minutes ago) > Hello, > > * Dmitry Maluka <dmitrymaluka <at> gmail.com> [2009-07-24 21:53]: > > Probably, the users that will try to find a newsgroup for dwm will be > > confused finding an outdated group. Also, the dev <at> suckless.org list (in > > past - the dwm <at> suckless.org list) contains messages not only on dwm > > or wmii but on any suckless.org software development related topics. > > > > I think it is reasonable to rename gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii to > > gmane.comp.suckless or similar, and create its "mirror" groups named > > gmane.comp.window-managers.dwm and gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii. If > > it is impossible, the group name should contain words "dwm" and "wmii". > > Unfortunately, renaming groups is not possible because of technical > difficulties. (We can do a delete/re-add, but that of course loses the > messages in the deleted group.) > Also, a group can have only one name, not multiple ones. > > So if the dev <at> suckless.org list is about both window managers wmii and > dwm, well, I guess we could delete both g.c.w-m.dwm and .wmii and create > a group gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii-dwm instead to carry > dev <at> suckless.org. (If you want the old messages to be present on Gmane, > you'll have to help us do a bulk-import, see > http://gmane.org/import.php) > Would that be alright with you? > > Wolfgang > > -- > Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again: http://gmane.org > > > From: Dmitry Maluka <dmitrymaluka <at> gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Newsgroup for dev <at> suckless.org > Newsgroups: gmane.discuss > Date: 2009-07-25 11:53:11 GMT (12 minutes ago) > 25-07-2009, Wolfgang Schnerring <wosc+gmane <at> wosc.de> wrote: > > Unfortunately, renaming groups is not possible because of technical > > difficulties. (We can do a delete/re-add, but that of course loses the > > messages in the deleted group.) > > Also, a group can have only one name, not multiple ones. > > > > So if the dev <at> suckless.org list is about both window managers wmii and > > dwm, well, I guess we could delete both g.c.w-m.dwm and .wmii and create > > a group gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii-dwm instead to carry > > dev <at> suckless.org. (If you want the old messages to be present on Gmane, > > you'll have to help us do a bulk-import, see > > http://gmane.org/import.php) > > Would that be alright with you? > > Yes, I like that. g.c.w-m.wmii should be removed; g.c.w-m.dwm may be > left but marked as obsolete; the new group should be created with > importing the current dev <at> suckless.org list archive into it. > > I'll ask other dev <at> suckless.org subscribers what do they think, and > write here. So, what do you think about it?
