On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 at 15:15, Daniel Sahlberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Den ons 29 juli 2026 kl 12:58 skrev Branko Čibej <[email protected]>:
>
>> On 29. 7. 2026 11:38, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 at 19:51, Nathan Hartman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 10:57 AM Ivan Zhakov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 at 17:11, Nathan Hartman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 12:40 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Author: ivan
>>> >> > Date: Fri Jul 24 16:39:48 2026
>>> >> > New Revision: 1936555
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Log:
>>> >> > In site/staging:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Use 'content' CSS property to add section link symbol.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > * style/site.css
>>> >> >   (.sectionlink::before): New class. Add 'pilcrow' symbol via
>>> 'content' CSS
>>> >> >    property.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > * blog/2006-09-10-EnhancingSubversionServer.html
>>> >> > * blog/2007-03-27-authz-and-anon-authn-agony.html
>>> >> > * blog/2007-06-13-merge_auditing.html
>>> >> > * blog/2008-03-29-merging-from-foreign-repositories.html
>>> >> > * blog/2008-05-06-merge-info.html
>>> >> > * blog/2009-11-19-where-did-that-mergeinfo-come-from.html
>>> >> > * blog/2012-10-24-reducing_network_traffic_in_subversion_1-8.html
>>> >> > *
>>> blog/2013-06-24-repository-dictated-configuration-part-1-inheritable-properties.html
>>> >> > *
>>> blog/2013-06-25-repository-dictated-configuration-part-2-autoprops.html
>>> >> > *
>>> blog/2013-06-26-repository-dictated-configuration-part-3-global-ignores.html
>>> >> > * blog/2013-06-28-foreign-repository-copies.html
>>> >> > * blog/index.html
>>> >> > * contributing.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/building.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/debugging.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/general.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/issues.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/l10n.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/mailing-lists.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/roles.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/community-guide/web.part.html
>>> >> > * docs/index.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.1.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.10.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.11.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.12.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.13.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.14.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.15.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.2.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.3.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.4.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.5.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.6.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.6.zh.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.7.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.8.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/1.9.html
>>> >> > * docs/release-notes/index.html
>>> >> > * download.html
>>> >> > * faq.html
>>> >> > * faq.ja.html
>>> >> > * faq.zh.html
>>> >> > * features.html
>>> >> > * ideas.html
>>> >> > * index.html
>>> >> > * mailing-lists.html
>>> >> > * news.html
>>> >> > * opw.html
>>> >> > * packages.html
>>> >> > * pronunciation/index.html
>>> >> > * quick-start.html
>>> >> > * reporting-issues.html
>>> >> > * roadmap.html
>>> >> > * security/index.html
>>> >> > * source-code.html
>>> >> >   Remove "&para;" from section links: we add it via 'content' CSS
>>> property.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, this change doesn't seem to work on Firefox.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am using the very latest Firefox, version 153.0.1.
>>> >>
>>> > I am using Firefox 153.0.1 and it works for me.
>>> >
>>> > I have also tested Microsoft Edge 150.0.4078.99 and it also works.
>>> >
>>> > May it's some kind of caching issue?
>>>
>>>
>>> You are correct, it was a caching issue. This confused me because I
>>> believed that I had force-reloaded the page. However, I just checked
>>> and it turns out that Cmd + R only reloads the HTML. You have to press
>>> Cmd + Shift + R to also reload stylesheets. I had forgotten this.
>>>
>>> Strangely, an earlier change of the stylesheets (to add td.success,
>>> td.warning, td.danger) took effect here without any special action on
>>> my part.
>>>
>>> This issue is rather annoying. I was searching for a reliable method
>>> to force browsers to reload CSS when it changes without forcing a
>>> reload every time the page is accessed. One StackOverflow page [1]
>>> contains an entire debate about this. The most simplistic idea from
>>> that page is to rename the CSS file with some sort of monotonically
>>> increasing version number in the filename each time the file is
>>> edited. This method would always work; the downside is that it would
>>> necessitate changes to all the files across the site, each time we
>>> edit the CSS. That could be annoying for us.
>>>
>>> An alternative solution would be to add a query argument and increment
>> it on every CSS change. Something like this:
>> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/style/site.css?v=1" type="text/css"
>> media="all">
>>
>> But we would still have to update 63 HTML files on every CSS change. I'm
>> not sure it is worth it, but I can do this
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not worth it. Some browsers are just notorious for caching too much.
>> That is not the case for Firefox – the difference between ^R/Shift-^R (or
>> ⌘R/Shift-⌘R on the Mac) is well known. Safari, on the other hand, is way
>> too smart, it doesn't have an equivalent to Shift-⌘R and will happily cache
>> CSS and favicons and such even when they no longer exist at the source...
>>
>> TL;DR: This will only happen to people who are regularly tracking the
>> changing staging web site.
>>
>
> It will also happen to anyone who regularly check the main website,
> whenever we merge this kind of changes. I have no idea how long it takes
> before the web browsers refresh a cached resource.
>
> That said, I don't think it is worth changing 63 HTML files on every CSS
> change.
>
> One possible solution: We already use mod_ssi to <!-- #include --> other
> files. One possible solution would be to have the head as a separate
> include. If I understand mod_ssi correctly, we could <!-- #set var="title"
> value="Some title" --> and then <title><!-- #echo var="title" --></title>
> in the header file. That way we only need to update the header-include file.
>
> Yes, we can use mod_ssi, but this will require mod_ssi for local testing.
I find it very convenient to test my changes without even starting the
server.


-- 
Ivan Zhakov

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