On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:21 PM Julian Foad <julianf...@apache.org> wrote:

> > This is where the question comes in ... why does not having the
> > pristines change this? The WC still knows what files it has and what
> > revisions. Isn't this what drives the process? I just do not
> > understand what has changed that forces the server to send the client
> > the version of a file that the client already knows it has.
>
> My best recent explanation I can offer was in my reply about 5 messages
> ago, at 10:36 UTC, with subsections "Restore is an aberration" and
> "Merge". Not sure what exactly you're missing; maybe not seeing the
> overall difference between the two approaches that are currently being 
> compared?

I think it is because that message was "meaningless" to me. What I
mean, is that I have never heard this "restore" term before so I
really just did not understand what you are talking about and why not
having the pristine triggers this behavior.

Is there a way to describe it in a way that a really experienced SVN
"user" not "developer" would understand? Set aside the pristinelsss WC
feature. What is the scenario in previous versions of SVN where this
behavior is kicking in?

To put it all another way, I am guessing I just did not understand why
it has to trigger all of these complications that Evgeny described. I
trust both of you that these are real I am just finding it hard to
understand why. From my laymans point of view, we have a database in
the WC that says what we have. I assumed we largely would be using
that information when talking to the server about what it needs to
send us to do an update. So I am just not getting why the server needs
to send us a file that WC already has.

I know your answer will be the "restore situation" but again I have
been around since 2003 and I have no idea what you are talking about.
I do not recall this being something I have heard before so I assume
it is some low level detail in the code that just washed over me in
the past.

As I originally said, explaining this to me is not going to fix
anything so I am also OK with leaving me in the dark. I value your
time.

Mark

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