On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 10:34 AM Julian Foad <julianf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Feb 18 2022, Mark Phippard wrote:
> >> [It fetches and stores pristines of modified files;] it doesn't mean
> >> "store no pristines" in that WC.
> >
> > I am curious what Karl thinks given that he is living this scenario
> > today and wants the feature. I would think that having update create
> > pristines for any modified file taints its usefulness. That said, it
> > is probably still better than what they have today and if the user is
> > on a fast network and disk space is not too big of an issue it might
> > not matter too much. I personally think this is the biggest issue to
> > solve though, more so than selectively choosing pristines for
> > different files. I think the feature just really does not "work as
> > advertised" if it is going to behave this way.
>
> Hello, Mark. Maybe Karl will yet answer, but I didn't want to leave this
> hanging any longer.
>
> This design was anticipated as far back as a 2006-06-09 comment on #525
> by Oswald Buddenhagen [1], where it is described as one of the
> possibilities among variations and alternatives. I'm not saying that
> justifies choosing it as the best solution, just that it's not arriving
> now from off the radar.

That comment specifically talks about diff. I think it is entirely
reasonable that for diff the feature works the way it does (fetch and
keep the pristine).

For an update, I think it is unexpected and undesirable. At least if
the HEAD revision of the file on the server is still the same as what
I had in my WC.

> We've already discussed how there are certainly scenarios where it won't
> be greatly helpful as well as scenarios where it will, and several
> people seem to think there are enough of the latter.
>
> Maybe, don't knock it till you've tried it?

I am really not knocking the overall feature. I am just saying that in
the scenario I described there is no way I would expect svn up to
fetch the pristines for files just because I have local mods. I think
for users with really large files ... which I assume are the main
target user ... it will make the feature less useful than it would be
if this behavior did not exist.

I am not this user. I am just projecting what I think they would want.
I was hoping Karl might chime in and/or interview his users about what
they might think. I personally think finding a solution to this would
be valuable.

Mark

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