On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:02:58PM +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Consensus can only result from an open discussion. That's a standard > ASF operating principle. > > The rhetoric in this thread effects chill on anyone who has an opinion > different from the opinion of certain speakers.
Could you please be more specific instead of making vauge statements that make me feel like they're addressed at me without actually saying so? > Therefore, this thread _cannot_ consense at this time. My impression is that consensus is going into the direction of reverting the default of the compile-time configuration option to yes and disabling the feature in configuration files by default. That is what most people have expressed support for. I do believe that leaving the feature off at compile-time and having a special-purpose command to save plaintext passwords is the better design. But since there is no clear consensus in favour of this idea we should not do it. I am 100% fine with that. The prospect of actually having to push through and write the code wasn't something I took on lightly, given that I have many other projects to juggle already. Not having to do that work is in fact a small relief. While I was willing to invest time into the proposed feature, I won't volunteer time for switching the default compile-time behaviour. It would be great if someone else could pick this up and get it committed. People who have an issue with plaintext support will simply have to ask their packagers to compile the feature out. I don't think they will have any success in convincing major distributors to use a non-default build option. But if they care strongly enough they can make use of software freedoms and compile their own binaries. That's going to be my answer to those folks. Given what you wrote above I do agree that it is now time to put an end to the discussion. I don't do NOT want this topic to explode into another argument between you and me, as we had last year; where I feel we could easily resolve things together over a friendly face-to-face chat, but it's absolutely impossible to resolve over email. That is not worth it, Daniel. It burns me out horribly every time this happens between us. Cheers, Stefan
