On 24.01.2019 12:29, Julian Foad wrote: > Here's a thread for discussing the github (GH) pull-request (PR) method of > contributing. > > My views, briefly, include: > > * I don't want open source projects to support GitHub; there is at least one > good open source alternative, GitLab. So I don't want us to keep the existing > GH semi-integration as-is, for that reason at least. I don't see a real need > to have any level of presence on GitHub beyond probably a place-holder that > points to our preferred options.
Hmph. I don't want open-source projects to "support" git, and I suppose my wish is just as likely to happen as yours. > * When the facility to contribute in this way (PRs) is available, it is > because We, the ASF community, have made it so, and we can turn it off if we > don't like it. This point is far too general for this list. members@ might be the right forum, but there are many, many people at the ASF that believe GitHub is the whole world (seems to go in hand with the "git == version control" and "GitHub == git" viewpoints). On the other hand, we can request that Infra removes *our* GitHub mirror, just as we requested in the past that it creates one. I'd rather see the ability to submit pull requests disabled for that mirror, though. > It would be very rude of us to criticize contributors for using a route that > we have made available. (The same applies to writing to the mailing list from > google groups, for example.) > > * I think drive-by contributions can be a valuable route for new contributors > to get started. I do acknowledge that they sometimes require a level of > hand-holding that can be tedious compared with contributions from more > "seasoned" contributors. I think that's OK for our community. Nobody has to > do any more than ensure a brief, polite response is given. > > * I think the PR style of contribution is useful. I think it is not. This style seems to be designed specifically so that contributors have to interact with the community as *little* as possible. It's completely at odds with how we do things here. The example that prompted the creation of this thread illustrates this quite well. > * I would love to help figure out how we could make a PR style of > contribution work well, perhaps using GitLab, certainly with better > integration than the existing GH semi-integration. Surely you mean non-integration. :) -- Brane
