On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Stefan <luke1...@posteo.de> wrote: > On 24/11/2017 12:25, Branko Čibej wrote: >> On 24.11.2017 12:20, Johan Corveleyn wrote: >>> At the hackathon we (me, Stefan Hett, Stefan Fuhrmann, Bert, Julian) >>> discussed migrating our wiki from the current MoinMoin >>> (wiki.apache.org/subversion) to the ASF Confluence instance >>> (cwiki.apache.org). This has been discussed / tried before [1], but >>> let's have another try. >>> >>> Motivation: >>> >>> * Make it possible to set up pages that anyone can edit, after >>> creating an account without interaction with some administrator / >>> moderator (in moinmoin, a new account needs to be activated by someone >>> with admin privileges -- too much friction). >>> - example that triggered this: let's keep a list of distributors / >>> packagers, and a list of tool vendors / integrators -- would be nice >>> if people could add themselves to such a page. Apart from that we want >>> more people to contribute to all kinds of docs / design / discussion. >>> >>> * Faster editing / saving (moinmoin still has performance problems). >>> >>> * In general: making it easier and nicer for anyone to contribute, >>> lowering barriers, ... >>> >>> * Additional benefit: user accounts are shared between the ASF JIRA >>> and Confluence instances. >>> >>> >>> How to do it? >>> * Just copy / paste (or export / import) existing pages (keeping the >>> last author or something), it's no must to keep history. >>> * What about existing links to our pages? Can we let them redirect >>> to the new pages? >>> * We should ask around with other ASF projects that have done this. >>> >>> >>> We still need to figure out some details on the "how", but regardless >>> we feel we should really just go ahead and do this. I'm willing to >>> spend some time on this myself (help is very welcome of course), if >>> the community agrees. >> The most important issues are: >> * internal links between pages >> * external links to pages >> >> Although if the latter works (with properly configured redirects), the >> former should, too. >> >> But if this can't be guaranteed (and automated), you've just volunteered >> to do the migration manually. :) >> >> -- Brane > > The number of pages in the wiki is quite manageable, and I'm more than > willing to help with the migration process. > > Regarding redirects/links: Shouldn't be much an issue to simply set > explicit redirects to the URLs one by one from the current wiki pages to > the new locations inside Confluence. > > Setting the author of a page needs to be done in the DB directly though, > so we need to check with Infra whether they'd do it for us (I assume atm > we are talking roughly 20-50 pages so it's really not much work to > create an sql-statement for them).
I've tried to get a list of all our current wiki pages. This search gives 105 pages, but some can be ignored (some system pages, and the "profile pages" of each user): https://wiki.apache.org/subversion/FindPage?advancedsearch=1&and_terms=.&mtime=8+years+before&action=fullsearch Instead of using this search (with mtime=8+years+before or somesuch, i.e. fill in '8 years before', and a '.' for search terms, in https://wiki.apache.org/subversion/FindPage), one can also list all pages (https://wiki.apache.org/subversion/TitleIndex), but that gives many more irrelevant pages, as it also includes help pages from MoinMoin itself. Since I like history (I'm interested in version control after all) I'd like to try to import them into Confluence with history. There seems to be a tool to export pages (optionally with history) from MoinMoin, to convert them into something that can be fed to the "Universal Wiki Converter" [1]. I'll read a bit more about that, and interface with infra to see if we can give that a try. Also, two INFRA jira tickets I found interesting: * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256 (Create Confluence wiki for CouchDB) -- this one had a reference to the Wiki Converter * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10942 (Moving Cassandra wiki to confluence) -- this one mentioned "As for 302 the moin wiki instance has the ability for you to redirect pages themselves", as Stefan also suggested above. [1] https://migrations.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/UWC/pages/1015848/UWC+MoinMoin+Notes -- Johan
