Hi, Paul,

From: Paul Hammant [mailto:p...@hammant.org] 

> Markus - I've read your section on deltification and I can see evidence in 
> what you wrote that you're concurrently in favor of and against it (the 
> file-suffix exclusion idea). Can you re-read and clarify?

>> I agree partly. Skipping compression for known "incompressible" formats like 
>> mpX, png or gif can come with performance benefits, saving some CPU cycles 
>> (see the recent performance disccussions on this list)

>> However, I'm not sure whether the same amounts for deltification. There are 
>> editing tasks which do not reencode the whole image / movie, and they can 
>> profit from deltification, for example:

>> - Lossless rotation / cropping of jpeg images.
>> - Editing / stripping the EXIF data of jpeg images.
>> - Embedding / dropping the preview thumbnail of jpeg images.
>> - Lossless MP3 editing (e. G. via mp3DirectCut).
>> - Editing MP3 meta data (e. G. Song Title)
>> (... and more...)

>> In all those cases, skipping deltification can drastically increase storage.

To summarize it up:

I expect significant benefits in some use cases by skipping the compression, 
thus I'm +1 if benchmarks prove it's worth the effort.

I see the danger of drastically increased bandwith and storage size 
(transferring/storing the whole mp3 instead of just some changed meta data 
bytes) in some common use cases when deltification is skipped. Thus, I'm 
skeptical (count it as -0), and I'd kindly suggest to do some benchmarks for 
those cases before implementation, and clear documentation of the possible 
negative effects if it's implemented.


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