On 16 September 2015 at 02:19, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 15.09.2015 23:31, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> Julian Foad wrote on Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 14:23:53 +0200:
>>> First, I'd like to say I'd be happy with either of these options, and
>>> I think making a conversion to one of these at the ASF is much better
>>> than not doing anything.
>> Agreed.
>>
>>>>> [ ] Keep our issues on Tigris
>>>>> [ ] Migrate our issues to a new Bugzilla instance hosted by ASF infra
>>>>> [ ] Migrate to the standard ASF Jira installation
>>> I'd like to know, if anybody can answer this briefly, what would we
>>> lose, and what would we gain, with each option? I can think of a few
>>> differences (and commonalities):
>>>
>> Thanks for writing this clear summary of the situation.
>>
>> I'd vote for bugzilla: it is simpler than jira (both feature-wise and
>> UI-wise) but more than equal to our needs.
>
> Perhaps. I have a deep-seated hate for Bugzilla from days past when I
> had to maintain instances of that. I always ended up having to mess with
> the code to get reasonable workflows and such ... and "mess" is a good
> description of what I found there.
>
> That doesn't have much bearing on what it's like to use today, of
> course. Just a gut feeling.
>
>> As to "format all descriptions as <pre>" in jira: honestly, it feels
>> like a round peg in a square hole. Jira is designed around ajax and and
>> html; I'd be concerned that future releases of jira might break the
>> renderer plugin Ivan is planning to write — and if that happens, infra
>> might simply disable the plugin until we fix it, since we'd be the only
>> project affected.
>
> An open-source plug-in of that sort probably stands a pretty good chance
> of being maintained by interested parties. Especially if it's relatively
> simple.
>
>> I think both candidates have the features we use (issue number, title,
>> comments, milestone). The primary consideration is which one will be
>> the most frictionless going forward (both for new issues and for
>> accessing old issues).
>
> At the end of the day, I'd trust whoever puts in the cycles to make the
> transition happen to select the tool they prefer. If Ivan is happy with
> Jira and already has some tooling around that, I see no reason to
> second-guess his choice.
>
I think that formatting of issue description and comments is kind of
blocker for JIRA migration and should be solved somehow: using
{noformat} tag and fixing scrollbars issue or using custom plugin
> I'm not happy with the closed-source nature of Jira; but then: there are
> not so many open-source alternatives available at short notice.
>
+1.
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Ivan Zhakov
