I'm pleased to see that everyone was able to spot
the Green Elephant, which kept everything else
well under the radar. Mission accomplished.
-- Stefan^2.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Hyrum K Wright <hy...@hyrumwright.org>wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>
>> On 30.05.2013 03:03, Blair Zajac wrote:
>> > ... one could stop thinking about memory management.
>>
>> Ha, ha, <censored> ha.
>>
>> I've heard that argument any number of times from C++ enthusiasts. I
>> still get a kick from seeing their faces after they realize what a load
>> of <censored> it is when you actually get away from "Hello, world!" to
>> something closer to the complexity of real projects.
>
>
> +1
>
> Spending any amount of time around C++ programmers, and you quickly learn
> that they have just as much paranoia about memory as your standard C
> programmer. Actually, it's even worse, since the language "hides" just
> enough detail that you can't really glance at code and know what's going
> on, memory-wise ("is this thing being copied?" "who owns this thing?" "is
> it a reference or a pointer or something else?"). Using C++ doesn't solve
> any memory management problems.
>
> It'd be really painful to write code in anything less than C++11, and as
> has been stated before, the platform support for that is very piecemeal.
> In that case, it might even be worth examining Lua or Go or Haskell. :)
>
> Most importantly, I've not yet heard a good statement of the problem that
> such a rewrite would solve. (Though I might not be listening closely
> enough.)
>
> -Hyrum
>
> PS - For those that want to waste a bunch of time bashing C++, I suggest
> the "Frequently Questioned Answers" document: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/ I bit
> dated, but entertaining nonetheless.
>
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