I'm thinking that we ought to continue auto-upgrade for the masses, especially given Bert's input. Much as I dislike config knobs, it seems prudent to introduce a "disable auto-upgrade" option for large, multi-client shops. IMO, you're tending towards sophisticated if you use more than one svn client. In turn, I further believe that implies minority. Let's give those users, who understand the issue, an option, and give simplicity to all the rest.
Would that work for you? Cheers, -g On Aug 26, 2012 3:38 PM, "Stefan Sperling" <s...@elego.de> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 02:29:45PM -0400, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Aug 25, 2012 8:08 PM, "Branko Čibej" <br...@wandisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 26.08.2012 00:31, Greg Stein wrote: > > > > In the past, we used auto-upgrade because it "just worked". Most > users > > > > don't need or want to worry about working copy formats. They just > want > > svn > > > > to work. > > > > > > > > I don't think we should be making things more difficult for the > > majority in > > > > order to help a few users who use multiple clients. That is > backwards. > > :-( > > > > > > Well, evidence appears to suggest that users who use multiple clients > > > are in fact the majority. Hearsay evidence, but that's the only kind I > > > see hereabouts. > > > > I'd call it a vocal minority. We've got millions of users. I can't see > the > > majority using multiple clients. Nobody runs into issues using a single > > client, so there is no need to speak up. > > I keep getting these complaints often. Mostly from users I personally > talk to during workshops, consulting, etc. Dunno how much of our user > population they represent. However it would be nice for me and them > if auto-upgrade was disabled by default. Because the problem would > be solved for them, and I could spend the time during my workshops > talking about more interesting stuff than why we auto-upgrade and > how to avoid the pitfalls. My desire to make this changed is based > on real user feedback. I wouldn't want to make it if these people > didn't request it. > > That's where I come from. I'm trying to keep you happy too by adding > a global config knob you can enable. I know you don't like config > knobs either but I cannot think of any other solution to make both > us of happy. Do you have any suggestions other than keeping auto-upgrade > the default? Any chance of compromise? >
