Mike Dixon wrote:

> On 3/22/2012 10:19 PM, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>  On 22.03.2012 22:33, Julian Foad wrote:
>>>  Branko Čibej wrote:
>>>>  I'm confused. What additional checks would --reintegrate do that your
>>>>  common or garden merge would skip? What kind of check do you think you
>>>>  can safely skip without throwing all the effort you're putting into
>>>>  fixing the merge algorithm out the window?
>>>  The checks of target WC state mentioned above.  Of course, the name 
>>> "reintegrate" would then be less than appropriate, and we could 
>>> consider a new name that makes more sense for that "I expect this to be a 
>>> clean simple merge" kind of meaning.  Is the use of an asymmetric-sounding 
>>> option name for a now-symmetric functionality what was making you 
>>> uncomfortable?
>> 
>>  No, what bugs me is the assumption that the user gives a pig's ear about
>>  whether the merge is "clean and simple" or whether the merge algorithm
>>  has to figure out all sorts of cherry picks and criss-cross twists. I
>>  very strongly suspect that the user doesn't care, she just wants merge
>>  to do the right thing, every time. What do you want --reintegrate to do,
>>  abort the merge if the user is wrong about "clean and simple?" Of course
>>  not.

> Hello, I'm a user. If I'm trying to bring a feature branch back onto 
> trunk and the merge isn't "clean and simple", 99% of the time 
> it's because I did something wrong. Either my working copy is in a different 
> state than I think it is, or the branch in a strange state because of 
> previous 
> mistakes.

(Or, in my experience, a common problem is the user issued the wrong source URL 
or is in the wrong target WC.)

> It's nice that svn will be able to handle more complicated merges 
> in the future, but please don't remove the existing checks on standard 
> operations that protect me from my own ignorance.
> 
> I'm also the svn administrator at $WORK, and I can promise you that my other 
> users understand the system even less well than I do. I'm not really looking 
> forward to having to disentangle a reintegrate that was applied to a WC with 
> switched subtrees.

Thanks for commenting, Mike.  That's exactly how I feel and you've said it 
better than I did.

- Julian

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