On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:25:24AM +0100, Becker, Thomas wrote: > Greg, > > I'm an outsider to the Subversion development community so you may be > surprised by me jumping into this discussion. But as you were shouting to the > public you should expect this. > > I'm shocked about the tone of your post and I don't see how calling someone > "whining" can help resolve technical misunderstandings.
There is a background story here. Stefan Küng has repeatedly been complaining about wc-ng. His perception seems to be that wc-ng will ultimately hurt TortoiseSVN. But this is not the intention of the Subversion project (of which Stefan Küng is part of, BTW). Rather, the intention is to improve virtually everything in working copy land for *all* Subversion clients. I think Stefan Küng is expecting too much from wc-ng too early. The APIs and implementation are still in flux and not finished. It is good that he is voicing his concerns, because it allows the Subversion project to cater to TortoiseSVN's needs. He isn't aware of some radical changes going on, and naturally frowns upon them. But some of his comments come across as a bit too dismissive. I can understand Greg taking offence when Stefan says things like "1.7 doesn't look like an improvement at all, no matter how great WC-NG will get", because Greg is one of the primary drivers of the wc-ng effort and he is putting a lot of effort and energy into it. Greg is trying to solve, in his spare time, really difficult problems for Subversion (and ultimately for TortoiseSVN). And yes, Greg is easy to wind up, but he also winds down very quickly. I hope this clears the air a bit. Thanks for raising the issue, Thomas. It is good that people are concerned about keeping communication within this community free of unnecessary noise. Stefan (Sperling)