C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Julian Foad wrote:
>> Did you mean to imply that use of the phrase "true renames" should be
>> limited to this storage layer?  That's not the impression I have.
> 
> I'm not trying to say that the term has no meaning outside of discussions
> related to the storage layer.  Just that:
> 
>   - any conversation about supporting the "true rename" idea in Subversion
>     thoroughly hinges on fundamentally different treatment of renamed
>     objects in that filesystem layer, and
> 
>   - the only place we've ever attempted to implement true renames is in
>     that filesystem layer.
> 
>   - it remains to be demonstrated that "true renames" are required for
>     Subversion to work as users expect.  I am fully convinced that if
>     Subversion would properly handle what it offers today (deletes, copies,
>     and their conjugation under the rename umbrella) we wouldn't be
>     having any conversations about "true renames" at all.  Nobody really
>     cares how we model our renames as long as common stuff like updates
>     and merges just work.

And:

    - before you start telling business users that Subversion needs to
      support true renames before it can meet their needs, prove it.

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C. Michael Pilato <cmpil...@collab.net>
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