On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Hyrum K. Wright > <hyrum_wri...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote: >> >> On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: >> >>> >>> With the pace of wc-ng slowed to a crawl it seems like we are going to >>> have a hard time even getting that feature to the point of a release. >>> Why would we want to even consider stuffing another feature into the >>> mix? >>> >>> We cannot stop people from working on the features they want to work >>> on, and obliterate is often requested, so if the feature materializes >>> in time for a release great. But I'd hope we are all redoubling our >>> efforts on finishing wc-ng so we can do this release and start seeing >>> the performance improvements it can bring. >> >> I too, would like to see wc-ng completed soon. It just a question of >> resources. As you >> have noticed, with only two or three people working on it, the bus factor >> isn't too high. The >> best way to get wc-ng completed would be for folks to start (or continue) >> hacking, and for >> people who have influence over development resources to allocate those >> resources in a >> manner which encourages wc-ng completion. A team of two or three working >> full-time is >> going to take a while; a larger group of folks can help expedite it >> significantly. > > I understand, and it is one of the reasons I keep prodding. It seems > like more alarms need to be raised publicly with an accompanying call > for help. I am not on IRC 24/7 and from the silence in the list, I > keep thinking that people are "about" to get working on it again. But > it seems like not very much has happened since October, as opposed to > the flurry of activity in the few months leading up to that.
This is a pretty accurate depiction of the situation. > I agree we need to get more people involved. I keep wanting to tell > Paul and Mike to devote more time specifically to WC-NG. It feels > like there is a lack of public direction though. What is the plan? > What has been completed? What is left to do? Who is already working > on some of these items? > > Put another way, if I asked Paul and Mike to focus on helping, then > where do they start? What do they work on? Where are there hints as > to what to do? I think this information is even more critical for > people that maybe only have a few hours every few days to work on > this. Where would they even start or no what to do? Asking questions is probably the first step. Bert, myself, Greg, and maybe a couple of others could give pointers as to where to start. Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple non-trivial tasks regarding loggy and workqueues which could be worked on in parallel. The upgrade code also needs some work (though I thought Greg was going to take a look at that this week). I'm open for email discussion, IRC chats, conference calls, whatever it takes to get things going and help people get involved. > Finally, who exactly is still working on WC-NG? It seems like it is > mostly just you now and that your time for this is only a small > fraction of that. So in reality it seems like we have maybe .25 > people working on this, not 2 or 3. And that is the problem. -Hyrum
