Hey Dongjoon,

Regarding your questions.

   1. If you define a large-ish local relation (which makes us cache it on
   the serverside) and keep using it, then leak off-heap memory every time it
   is being used. At some point the OS will OOM kill the driver. While I have
   a repro, testing it like this in CI is not a good idea. As an alternative I
   am working on a test that checks buffer clean-up.For the record I don't
   appreciate the term `claim` here; I am not blocking a release without
   genuine concern.
   2. The root cause is https://databricks.atlassian.net/browse/SPARK-53342
   and not the large local relations work.
   3. A PR has been open since Friday:
   https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/53452. I hope that I can get it
   merged today.
   4. I don't see a reason why.

Cheers,
Herman

On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 5:47 AM Dongjoon Hyun <[email protected]> wrote:

> How can we verify the regression, Herman?
>
> It's a little difficult for me to evaluate your claim so far due to the
> lack of the shared information. Specifically, there is no update for last 3
> days on "SPARK-54696 (Spark Connect LocalRelation support leak off-heap
> memory)" after you created it.
>
> Could you provide us more technical information about your Spark Connect
> issue?
>
> 1. How can we reproduce your claim? Do you have a test case?
>
> 2. For the root cause, I'm wondering if you are saying literally
> SPARK-53917 (Support large local relations) or another JIRA issue. Which
> commit is the root cause?
>
> 3. Since you assigned SPARK-54696 to yourself for last 3 days, do you want
> to provide a PR soon?
>
> 4. If you need more time, shall we simply revert the root cause from
> Apache Spark 4.1.0 ?
>
> Thanks,
> Dongjoon
>
> On 2025/12/14 23:29:59 Herman van Hovell via dev wrote:
> > Yes. It is a regression in Spark 4.1. The root cause is a change where we
> > fail to clean-up allocated (off-heap) buffers.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2025 at 4:25 AM Dongjoon Hyun <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Herman.
> > >
> > > Do you mean that is a regression at Apache Spark 4.1.0?
> > >
> > > If then, do you know what was the root cause?
> > >
> > > Dongjoon.
> > >
> > > On 2025/12/13 23:09:02 Herman van Hovell via dev wrote:
> > > > -1. We need to get https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-54696
> > > fixed.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 11:07 AM Jules Damji <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 non-binding
> > > > > —
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > Pardon the dumb thumb typos :)
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 11, 2025, at 8:34 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Spark
> > > > > version 4.1.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The vote is open until Sun, 14 Dec 2025 09:34:31 PST and passes
> if a
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> > > > > > a minimum of 3 +1 votes.
> > > > > >
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