Because of dependencies we need to ensure that the underlying artifacts
(Hive 4.0.1) is also stable enough. We should aim to establish that first
and look for release timelines and where it fits

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 at 06:02, Rozov, Vlad <vro...@amazon.com.invalid> wrote:

> I started working on it. See https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/50213.
> Review and comments on the PR will help a lot.
>
> +1 for 4.1. It won’t be ready for 4.0 and will require extensive testing.
>
> I have few more local changes that fixes some tests in sql/hive and should
> publish another revision soon.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Vlad
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2025, at 10:12 PM, Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree, 4.0 is already in the RC stage and I think it's too late to do
> such a big version bump for the Hive dependency.
>
> We definitely need to do this upgrade and thanks for working on it!
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 1:31 PM Ángel Álvarez Pascua <
> angel.alvarez.pas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's great news! If you need anything from me, just ask...
>>
>> We should also check and update other non-Hive third-party libraries with
>> high/critical vulnerabilities, as someone mentioned in another email thread.
>>
>> Since this is a major change, I think we should leave it for Spark 4.1.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> El lun, 24 mar 2025 a las 0:59, Mich Talebzadeh (<
>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>
>>> For now, I am testing apache-hive-4.0.1-bin which is the latest release
>>> version  from
>>>
>>> https://dlcdn.apache.org/hive/hive-4.0.1/
>>>
>>> apache-hive-4.0.1-bin.tar
>>>
>>> My metastore is Oracle and upgrade scripts are provided..
>>>
>>> My previous version is Hive 3.1.1 and the metastore upgrade went OK
>>> without any major headache.
>>>
>>> Now I just need to customise various files under $HIVE_HOME/conf and
>>> then I will have some testing underway.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Dr Mich Talebzadeh,
>>> Architect | Data Science | Financial Crime | Forensic Analysis | GDPR
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 at 17:13, Ángel Álvarez Pascua <
>>> angel.alvarez.pas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well ... and then? When are we going to tackle this? I could help.
>>>>
>>>> El mié, 12 mar 2025, 15:50, Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. Hive upgrade is more time consuming as it involves backing up
>>>>> Hive schema on your metastore and then running Hive provided upgrade 
>>>>> schema
>>>>> scripts against Hive schema that could be problematic,but needs to be done
>>>>> one way or another.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>> Architect | Data Science | Financial Crime | Forensic Analysis | GDPR
>>>>>
>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 at 12:21, Ángel <angel.alvarez.pas...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not an easy task, I guess, but I'm totally for it too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The issue SPARK-49910
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-49910> is related to
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El mar, 11 mar 2025 a las 23:06, Mich Talebzadeh (<
>>>>>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I am all  for it, as I use Hive with Oracle as its metastore
>>>>>>> extensively.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Case in point, on 6th March A Hive user
>>>>>>> <https://lists.apache.org/thread/vhgxt1cj2ppc862j0lwxl63j6nfc7khh>
>>>>>>> alluded to it and I quote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I just wanted to highlight that Hive 3.x line is EOL. It has
>>>>>>> various known security vulnerabilities, many serious bugs (including 
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> results and data corruption), and lacks lots of improvements and major
>>>>>>> features that are available in Hive 4. Upgrading is the right path 
>>>>>>> forward."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  In summary, Hive 4.x likely includes performance improvements, new
>>>>>>> features, and bug fixes. Compiling against it would allow Spark to take
>>>>>>> advantage of these. Plus using the latest versions of both Spark and 
>>>>>>> Hive
>>>>>>> is important for maintaining a secure data platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>>>> Architect | Data Science | Financial Crime | Forensic Analysis | GDPR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 at 19:08, Rozov, Vlad <vro...@amazon.com.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Apache Hive announced EOL for Hive 2.x [1] and 3.x [2], should
>>>>>>>> Spark be compiled against Hive 4.x and use it as default?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/4ctrzfw60jkhc0hq2xoh1jpqxgt2zd93
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/99h6wr7nk4684r6tkcbm8ydfytgqy6f3
>>>>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/50213
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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