You're right, but with the native dependencies (this is the case for the packages I've mentioned before) we have to bundle complete environments. It is doable, but if you do that, you're actually better off with base image. I don't insist it is something we have to address right now, just something to keep in mind.
On 8/17/21 10:05 AM, Mich Talebzadeh wrote: > Of course with PySpark, there is the option of putting your > packages in gz format and send them at spark-submit time > > --conf "spark.yarn.dist.archives"=pyspark_venv.tar.gz#environment \ > > However, in the Kubernetes cluster that file is going to be fairly > massive and will take time to unzip and share. The interpreter will > be what it comes with the docker image! > > > > > > > ** view my Linkedin profile > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> > > > > *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk.Any and all responsibility for > any loss, damage or destruction of data or any other property which > may arise from relying on this email's technical content is explicitly > disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for any monetary > damages arising from such loss, damage or destruction. > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 18:46, Maciej <mszymkiew...@gmail.com > <mailto:mszymkiew...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I have a few concerns regarding PySpark and SparkR images. > > First of all, how do we plan to handle interpreter versions? > Ideally, we should provide images for all supported variants, but > based on the preceding discussion and the proposed naming > convention, I assume it is not going to happen. If that's the > case, it would be great if we could fix interpreter versions based > on some support criteria (lowest supported, lowest non-deprecated, > highest supported at the time of release, etc.) > > Currently, we use the following: > > * for R use buster-cran35 Debian repositories which install R > 3.6 (provided version already changed in the past and broke > image build ‒ SPARK-28606). > * for Python we depend on the system provided python3 packages, > which currently provides Python 3.7. > > which don't guarantee stability over time and might be hard to > synchronize with our support matrix. > > Secondly, omitting libraries which are required for the full > functionality and performance, specifically > > * Numpy, Pandas and Arrow for PySpark > * Arrow for SparkR > > is likely to severely limit usability of the images (out of these, > Arrow is probably the hardest to manage, especially when you > already depend on system packages to provide R or Python interpreter). > > > On 8/14/21 12:43 AM, Mich Talebzadeh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We can cater for multiple types (spark, spark-py and spark-r) and >> spark versions (assuming they are downloaded and available). >> The challenge is that these docker images built are snapshots. >> They cannot be amended later and if you change anything by going >> inside docker, as soon as you are logged out whatever you did is >> reversed. >> >> For example, I want to add tensorflow to my docker image. These >> are my images >> >> REPOSITORY TAG IMAGE ID >> CREATED SIZE >> eu.gcr.io/axial-glow-224522/spark-py >> <http://eu.gcr.io/axial-glow-224522/spark-py> java8_3.1.1 >> cfbb0e69f204 5 days ago 2.37GB >> eu.gcr.io/axial-glow-224522/spark >> <http://eu.gcr.io/axial-glow-224522/spark> 3.1.1 >> 8d1bf8e7e47d 5 days ago 805MB >> >> using image ID I try to log in as root to the image >> >> *docker run -u0 -it cfbb0e69f204 bash* >> >> root@b542b0f1483d:/opt/spark/work-dir# pip install keras >> Collecting keras >> Downloading keras-2.6.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl (1.3 MB) >> |████████████████████████████████| 1.3 MB 1.1 MB/s >> Installing collected packages: keras >> Successfully installed keras-2.6.0 >> WARNING: Running pip as the 'root' user can result in broken >> permissions and conflicting behaviour with the system package >> manager. It is recommended to use a virtual environment instead: >> https://pip.pypa.io/warnings/venv <https://pip.pypa.io/warnings/venv> >> root@b542b0f1483d:/opt/spark/work-dir# pip list >> Package Version >> ------------- ------- >> asn1crypto 0.24.0 >> cryptography 2.6.1 >> cx-Oracle 8.2.1 >> entrypoints 0.3 >> *keras 2.6.0 <--- it is here* >> keyring 17.1.1 >> keyrings.alt 3.1.1 >> numpy 1.21.1 >> pip 21.2.3 >> py4j 0.10.9 >> pycrypto 2.6.1 >> PyGObject 3.30.4 >> pyspark 3.1.2 >> pyxdg 0.25 >> PyYAML 5.4.1 >> SecretStorage 2.3.1 >> setuptools 57.4.0 >> six 1.12.0 >> wheel 0.32.3 >> root@b542b0f1483d:/opt/spark/work-dir# exit >> >> Now I exited from the image and try to log in again >> (pyspark_venv) hduser@rhes76: /home/hduser/dba/bin/build> docker >> run -u0 -it cfbb0e69f204 bash >> >> root@5231ee95aa83:/opt/spark/work-dir# pip list >> Package Version >> ------------- ------- >> asn1crypto 0.24.0 >> cryptography 2.6.1 >> cx-Oracle 8.2.1 >> entrypoints 0.3 >> keyring 17.1.1 >> keyrings.alt 3.1.1 >> numpy 1.21.1 >> pip 21.2.3 >> py4j 0.10.9 >> pycrypto 2.6.1 >> PyGObject 3.30.4 >> pyspark 3.1.2 >> pyxdg 0.25 >> PyYAML 5.4.1 >> SecretStorage 2.3.1 >> setuptools 57.4.0 >> six 1.12.0 >> wheel 0.32.3 >> >> *Hm that keras is not there*. The docker Image cannot be altered >> after build! So once the docker image is created that is just a >> snapshot. However, it will still have tons of useful stuff for >> most users/organisations. My suggestions is to create for a given >> type (spark, spark-py etc): >> >> 1. One vanilla flavour for everyday use with few useful packages >> 2. One for medium use with most common packages for ETL/ELT stuff >> 3. One specialist for ML etc with keras, tensorflow and anything >> else needed >> >> >> These images should be maintained as we currently maintain spark >> releases with accompanying documentation. Any reason why we >> cannot maintain ourselves? >> >> HTH >> >> ** view my Linkedin profile >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> >> >> >> >> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk.Any and all responsibility >> for any loss, damage or destruction of data or any other property >> which may arise from relying on this email's technical content is >> explicitly disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for >> any monetary damages arising from such loss, damage or destruction. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 17:26, Holden Karau <hol...@pigscanfly.ca >> <mailto:hol...@pigscanfly.ca>> wrote: >> >> So we actually do have a script that does the build already >> it's more a matter of publishing the results for easier use. >> Currently the script produces three images spark, spark-py, >> and spark-r. I can certainly see a solid reason to publish >> like with a jdk11 & jdk8 suffix as well if there is interest >> in the community. If we want to have a say spark-py-pandas >> for a Spark container image with everything necessary for the >> Koalas stuff to work then I think that could be a great PR >> from someone to add :) >> >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:00 AM Mich Talebzadeh >> <mich.talebza...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mich.talebza...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> should read PySpark >> >> >> >> ** view my Linkedin profile >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> >> >> >> >> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk.Any and all >> responsibility for any loss, damage or destruction of >> data or any other property which may arise from relying >> on this email's technical content is explicitly >> disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for any >> monetary damages arising from such loss, damage or >> destruction. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 08:51, Mich Talebzadeh >> <mich.talebza...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mich.talebza...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Agreed. >> >> I have already built a few latest for Spark and >> PYSpark on 3.1.1 with Java 8 as I found out Java 11 >> does not work with Google BigQuery data warehouse. >> However, to hack the Dockerfile one finds out the >> hard way. >> >> For example how to add additional Python >> libraries like tensorflow etc. Loading these >> libraries through Kubernetes is not practical as >> unzipping and installing it through --py-files etc >> will take considerable time so they need to be added >> to the dockerfile at the built time in directory for >> Python under Kubernetes >> >> /opt/spark/kubernetes/dockerfiles/spark/bindings/python >> >> RUN pip install pyyaml numpy cx_Oracle tensorflow .... >> >> Also you will need curl to test the ports from inside >> the docker >> >> RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y curl >> RUN ["apt-get","install","-y","vim"] >> >> As I said I am happy to build these specific >> dockerfiles plus the complete documentation for it. I >> have already built one for Google (GCP). The >> difference between Spark and PySpark version is that >> in Spark/scala a fat jar file will contain all >> needed. That is not the case with Python I am afraid. >> >> HTH >> >> >> ** view my Linkedin profile >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> >> >> >> >> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk.Any and all >> responsibility for any loss, damage or destruction of >> data or any other property which may arise from >> relying on this email's technical content is >> explicitly disclaimed. The author will in no case be >> liable for any monetary damages arising from such >> loss, damage or destruction. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 08:13, Bode, Meikel, NMA-CFD >> <meikel.b...@bertelsmann.de >> <mailto:meikel.b...@bertelsmann.de>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am Meikel Bode and only an interested reader of >> dev and user list. Anyway, I would appreciate to >> have official docker images available. >> >> Maybe one could get inspiration from the Jupyter >> docker stacks and provide an hierarchy of >> different images like this: >> >> >> >> >> https://jupyter-docker-stacks.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using/selecting.html#image-relationships >> >> <https://jupyter-docker-stacks.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using/selecting.html#image-relationships> >> >> >> >> Having a core image only supporting Java, an >> extended supporting Python and/or R etc. >> >> >> >> Looking forward to the discussion. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Meikel >> >> >> >> *From:*Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mich.talebza...@gmail.com>> >> *Sent:* Freitag, 13. August 2021 08:45 >> *Cc:* dev <dev@spark.apache.org >> <mailto:dev@spark.apache.org>> >> *Subject:* Re: Time to start publishing Spark >> Docker Images? >> >> >> >> I concur this is a good idea and certainly worth >> exploring. >> >> >> >> In practice, preparing docker images as >> deployable will throw some challenges because >> creating docker for Spark is not really a >> singular modular unit, say creating docker for >> Jenkins. It involves different versions and >> different images for Spark and PySpark and most >> likely will end up as part of Kubernetes >> deployment. >> >> >> >> Individuals and organisations will deploy it as >> the first cut. Great but I equally feel that good >> documentation on how to build a consumable >> deployable image will be more valuable. FRom my >> own experience the current documentation should >> be enhanced, for example how to deploy working >> directories, additional Python packages, build >> with different Java versions (version 8 or >> version 11) etc. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> view my Linkedin profile >> >> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fmich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2%2F&data=04%7C01%7CMeikel.Bode%40bertelsmann.de%7Cd97d97be540246aa975308d95e260c99%7C1ca8bd943c974fc68955bad266b43f0b%7C0%7C0%7C637644339790679755%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0CkL3HZo9FNVUOnLQ4CYs29Z9HfrwE4xDqLgVmMbr10%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk.Any and all >> responsibility for any loss, damage or >> destruction of data or any other property which >> may arise from relying on this >> email's technical content is explicitly >> disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable >> for any monetary damages arising from such loss, >> damage or destruction. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 01:54, Holden Karau >> <hol...@pigscanfly.ca >> <mailto:hol...@pigscanfly.ca>> wrote: >> >> Awesome, I've filed an INFRA ticket to get >> the ball rolling. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:48 PM John Zhuge >> <jzh...@apache.org >> <mailto:jzh...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:44 PM Hyukjin >> Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com >> <mailto:gurwls...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> +1, I think we generally agreed upon >> having it. Thanks Holden for headsup >> and driving this. >> >> +@Dongjoon Hyun >> <mailto:dongj...@apache.org> FYI >> >> >> >> 2021년 7월 22일 (목) 오후 12:22, Kent Yao >> <yaooq...@gmail.com >> <mailto:yaooq...@gmail.com>>님이 작성: >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> Bests, >> >> >> >> *Kent Yao** * >> >> @ Data Science Center, Hangzhou >> Research Institute, NetEase Corp. >> >> */a spark/**/ /**/enthusiast/* >> >> */kyuubi >> >> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fyaooqinn%2Fkyuubi&data=04%7C01%7CMeikel.Bode%40bertelsmann.de%7Cd97d97be540246aa975308d95e260c99%7C1ca8bd943c974fc68955bad266b43f0b%7C0%7C0%7C637644339790679755%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZkE%2BAK4%2BUO9JsDzZlAfY5gsATCVm5hidLCp7EGxAWiY%3D&reserved=0>/*/is >> a >> unified// /*/multi-tenant/*/ //JDBC >> interface for large-scale data >> processing and >> analytics,// //built on top >> of// /*/Apache Spark >> >> 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