We maybe don't need to litigate this one again. I do think this point of
view is legitimate, as is the point of view that 'master' is inextricably
linked to 'master/slave' as an unfortunate term of art; it did not
originate in reference to mastery of a skill but of another entity. Even if
one viewed this as a symbolic gesture at best, that has value. Nobody
believes this is going to end racism or anything, but has at least value as
a signal of community values.

This of course does have to balance against practical concerns. We don't
want to break APIs and code over this, I believe.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 9:55 AM Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am afraid I have to differ on this if I may. This is the gist of it.
>
> The term master has been a part of English and English speaking culture
> for a very long time. Unlike " slave" this term "master" has no
> connotation to anything related to race, creed and so forth. It is widely
> used in the literature
>
> I believe this has been discussed in Spark forums before. Otherwise we may
> end up replacing master tournaments with leader tournaments, master class
> with leader class, master craftsman  with leader craftsman and so forth.
> Personally I  don't believe it will make any significant contribution. We
> should bear in mind these terminologies are interpreted as they are used
> and within the context they are used.
>
> HTH
>
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> On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 at 15:24, Thomas Graves <tgraves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Looking at this again since we cut spark 3.2 branch thinking this
>> might be something to target for Spark 3.3.
>>
>> Based on the feedback, I'd like to propose using "Leader" to replace
>> "Master".   If there are objections to this please let me know in the
>> next few days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM Tom Graves
>> <tgraves...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > thanks for the interest, I haven't had time to work on replacing
>> Master, hopefully for the next release but time dependent, if you follow
>> the lira - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32333 - I will
>> post there when I start or if someone else picks it up should see activity
>> there.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > On Saturday, January 16, 2021, 07:56:14 AM CST, João Paulo Leonidas
>> Fernandes Dias da Silva <jplfdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > So, it looks like slave was already replaced in the docs. Waiting for a
>> definition on the replacement(s) for master so I can create a PR for the
>> docs only.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 8:30 AM jpaulorio <jplfdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > What about updating the documentation as well? Does it depend on the
>> codebase
>> > changes or can we treat it as a separate issue? I volunteer to update
>> both
>> > Master and Slave terms when there's an agreement on what should be used
>> as
>> > replacement. Since  [SPARK-32004]
>> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32004>   was already
>> resolved,
>> > can I start replacing slave with worker?
>> >
>> >
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