It sounds like with the slight wording change we’re in agreement so I’ll bounce this by an editor friend to fix my grammar/spelling before I put it up for a vote.
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:23 PM Hyukjin Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 thanks Holden. > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, 22:34 Tom Graves, <tgraves...@yahoo.com.invalid> > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Tom >> >> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 03:35:18 PM CDT, Holden Karau < >> hol...@pigscanfly.ca> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Spark Developers, >> >> There has been a rather active discussion regarding the specific vetoes >> that occured during Spark 3. From that I believe we are now mostly in >> agreement that it would be best to clarify our rules around code vetoes & >> merging in general. Personally I believe this change is important to help >> improve the appearance of a level playing field in the project. >> >> Once discussion settles I'll run this by a copy editor, my grammar isn't >> amazing, and bring forward for a vote. >> >> The current Spark committer guide is at >> https://spark.apache.org/committers.html. I am proposing we add a >> section on when it is OK to merge PRs directly above the section on how to >> merge PRs. The text I am proposing to amend our committer guidelines with >> is: >> >> PRs shall not be merged during active on topic discussion except for >> issues like critical security fixes of a public vulnerability. Under >> extenuating circumstances PRs may be merged during active off topic >> discussion and the discussion directed to a more appropriate venue. Time >> should be given prior to merging for those involved with the conversation >> to explain if they believe they are on topic. >> >> Lazy consensus requires giving time for discussion to settle, while >> understanding that people may not be working on Spark as their full time >> job and may take holidays. It is believed that by doing this we can limit >> how often people feel the need to exercise their veto. >> >> For the purposes of a -1 on code changes, a qualified voter includes all >> PMC members and committers in the project. For a -1 to be a valid veto it >> must include a technical reason. The reason can include things like the >> change may introduce a maintenance burden or is not the direction of Spark. >> >> If there is a -1 from a non-committer, multiple committers or the PMC >> should be consulted before moving forward. >> >> >> If the original person who cast the veto can not be reached in a >> reasonable time frame given likely holidays, it is up to the PMC to decide >> the next steps within the guidelines of the ASF. This must be decided by a >> consensus vote under the ASF voting rules. >> >> These policies serve to reiterate the core principle that code must not >> be merged with a pending veto or before a consensus has been reached (lazy >> or otherwise). >> >> It is the PMC’s hope that vetoes continue to be infrequent, and when they >> occur all parties take the time to build consensus prior to additional >> feature work. >> >> >> Being a committer means exercising your judgement, while working in a >> community with diverse views. There is nothing wrong in getting a second >> (or 3rd or 4th) opinion when you are uncertain. Thank you for your >> dedication to the Spark project, it is appreciated by the developers and >> users of Spark. >> >> >> It is hoped that these guidelines do not slow down development, rather by >> removing some of the uncertainty that makes it easier for us to reach >> consensus. If you have ideas on how to improve these guidelines, or other >> parts of how the Spark project operates you should reach out on the dev@ >> list to start the discussion. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Holden >> >> -- >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau >> Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.): >> https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9> >> YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau >> > -- Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.): https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9> YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau