Does it mean that majority of Spark related projects, including top Datatbricks 
(https://github.com/databricks?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=spark&type=&language=) or 
RStudio (sparklyr) contributions, violate the trademark?

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On August 15, 2018 5:51 PM, Sean Owen <sro...@apache.org> wrote:

> You might be interested in the full policy: 
> https://spark.apache.org/trademarks.html
>
> What it is trying to prevent is confusion. Is spark-xml from the Spark 
> project? Sounds like it but who knows ? What is a vendor releases ASFSpark 
> 3.0? Are people going to think this is an official real project release?
>
> You can release 'Foo for Apache Spark'. You can use shorthand like foo-spark 
> in software identifiers like Maven coordinates.
>
> Keeping trademark rights is essential in OSS and part of it is making an 
> effort to assert that right.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:44 AM Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com> wrote:
>
>> mhhh thats somewhat unfortunate?
>>
>> its helpful to me that something is called say spark-xml, it tells me its 
>> xml for spark! any other name would probably be less informative.
>>
>> or is this still allowed?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that’s an Apache foundation policy and the Spark community 
>>> has no power to change it. My understanding: The reason Spark can’t be in 
>>> the name is because if it is used frequently enough, the foundation would 
>>> lose the Spark trademark. Cheers.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 7:19 AM Simon Dirmeier <simon.dirme...@web.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for clearning that up.
>>>> Imho this is somewhat unfortunate, because package names that contain 
>>>> "spark", somewhat promote and advertise Apache Spark, right?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.08.18 um 14:00 schrieb Sean Owen:
>>>>
>>>>> You raise a great point, and we were just discussing this. The page is 
>>>>> old and contains many projects that were listed before the trademarks 
>>>>> we're being enforced. Some have renamed themselves. We will update the 
>>>>> page and remove stale or noncompliant projects and ask those that need to 
>>>>> change to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct that the guidance you quote is current and should be 
>>>>> followed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note there is an exception for software identifiers.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 6:13 AM Simon Dirmeier <simon.dirme...@web.de> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am currently developing two OSS extension packages for spark; one 
>>>>>> related to machine learning; one related to biological applications.
>>>>>> According to the trademark guidelines 
>>>>>> (https://spark.apache.org/trademarks.html) I am not allowed to use  
>>>>>> Names derived from “Spark”, such as “sparkly”.
>>>>>> My question is if that is really the case or how stringent these 
>>>>>> guidelines are, given that so many spark packages 
>>>>>> (https://spark.apache.org/third-party-projects.html) contain Spark as 
>>>>>> name already. I already contacted the official email for questions like 
>>>>>> these, but didn't hear back until now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone please shed light on this?
>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Simon

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