Hi Deb,

Putting your code on github will be much appreciated -- it will give us a
good starting point to adapt for our purposes.

Regards.


On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Debasish Das [via Apache Spark Developers
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> Factorization problems are non-convex and so both ALS and DSGD will
> converge to local minima and it is not clear which minima will be better
> than the other until we run both the algorithms and see...
>
> So I will still say get a DSGD version running in the test setup while you
> experiment with the Spark ALS...so that you can see if on your particular
> dataset DSGD is converging to a better minima...
>
> If you want I can put the DSGD code base that I used for experimentation
> on
> github...I am not sure if Professor Re already put it on github...
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Krakna H <[hidden email]
> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7110&i=0>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Deb,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! At this point, we haven't determined
> > which of DSGD/ALS to go with and were waiting on guidance like yours to
> > tell us what the right option would be. It looks like ALS seems to be
> good
> > enough for our purposes.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Debasish Das [via Apache Spark
> Developers
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> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7110&i=1>> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In my experiments with Jellyfish I did not see any substantial RMSE
> loss
> > > over DSGD for Netflix dataset...
> > >
> > > So we decided to stick with ALS and implemented a family of Quadratic
> > > Minimization solvers that stays in the ALS realm but can solve
> > interesting
> > > constraints(positivity, bounds, L1, equality constrained bounds
> etc)...We
> > > are going to show it at the Spark Summit...Also ALS structure is
> > favorable
> > > to matrix factorization use-cases where missing entries means zero and
> > you
> > > want to compute a global gram matrix using broadcast and use that for
> > each
> > > Quadratic Minimization for all users/products...
> > >
> > > Implementing DSGD in the data partitioning that Spark ALS uses will be
> > > straightforward but I would be more keen to see a dataset where DSGD
> is
> > > showing you better RMSEs than ALS....
> > >
> > > If you have a dataset where DSGD produces much better result could you
> > > please point it to us ?
> > >
> > > Also you can use Jellyfish to run DSGD benchmarks to compare against
> > > ALS...It is multithreaded and if you have good RAM, you should be able
> to
> > > run fairly large datasets...
> > >
> > > Be careful about the default Jellyfish...it has been tuned for netflix
> > > dataset (regularization, rating normalization etc)...So before you
> > compare
> > > RMSE make sure ALS and Jellyfish is running same algorithm (L2
> > regularized
> > > Quadratic Loss)....
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Deb
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Krakna H <[hidden email]
> > > <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7098&i=0>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Just found this thread -- is there an update on including DSGD in
> > Spark?
> > > We
> > > > have a project that entails topic modeling on a document-term matrix
> > > using
> > > > matrix factorization, and were wondering if we should use ALS or
> > attempt
> > > > writing our own matrix factorization implementation on top of Spark.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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