Yep,
Regarding flatMap and an implicit parameter might work like in scala's
future for instance:
https://github.com/scala/scala/blob/master/src/library/scala/concurrent/Future.scala#L246

Dunno, still waiting for some insights from the team ^^

andy

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Pascal Voitot Dev <
pascal.voitot....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM, andy petrella <andy.petre...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I want just to pint something out...
> > I didn't had time yet to sort it out and to think enough to give valuable
> > strict explanation of -- event though, intuitively I feel they are a lot
> > ===> need spark people or time to move forward.
> > But here is the thing regarding *flatMap*.
> >
> > Actually, it looks like (and again intuitively makes sense) that RDD (and
> > of course DStream) aren't monadic and it is reflected in the
> implementation
> > (and signature) of flatMap.
> >
> > >
> > > *  def flatMap[U: ClassTag](f: T => TraversableOnce[U]): RDD[U] = **
> > > new FlatMappedRDD(this, sc.clean(f))*
> >
> >
> > There!? flatMap (or bind, >>=) should take a function that use the same
> > Higher level abstraction in order to be considered as such right?
> >
> >
> I had remarked exactly the same thing and asked myself the same question...
>
> In this case, it takes a function that returns a TraversableOnce which is
> > the type of the content of the RDD, and what represent the output is more
> > the content of the RDD than the RDD itself (still right?).
> >
> > This actually breaks the understand of map and flatMap
> >
> > > *def map[U: ClassTag](f: T => U): RDD[U] = new MappedRDD(this,
> > > sc.clean(f))*
> >
> >
> > Indeed, RDD is a functor and the underlying reason for flatMap to not
> take
> > A => RDD[B] doesn't show up in map.
> >
> > This has a lot of consequence actually, because at first one might want
> to
> > create for-comprehension over RDDs, of even Traversable[F[_]] functions
> > like sequence -- and he will get stuck since the signature aren't
> > compliant.
> > More importantly, Scala uses convention on the structure of a type to
> allow
> > for-comp... so where Traversable[F[_]] will fail on type, for-comp will
> > failed weirdly.
> >
>
> +1
>
>
> >
> > Again this signature sounds normal, because my intuitive feeling about
> RDDs
> > is that they *only can* be monadic but the composition would depend on
> the
> > use case and might have heavy consequences (unioning the RDDs for
> instance
> > => this happening behind the sea can be a big pain, since it wouldn't be
> > efficient at all).
> >
> > So Yes, RDD could be monadic but with care.
> >
>
> At least we can say, it is a Functor...
> Actually, I had imagined studying the monadic aspect of RDDs but as you
> said, it's not so easy...
> So for now, I consider them as pseudo-monadic ;)
>
>
>
> > So what exposes this signature is a way to flatMap over the inner value,
> > like it is almost the case for Map (flatMapValues)
> >
> > So, wouldn't be better to rename flatMap as flatMapData (or whatever
> better
> > name)? Or to have flatMap requiring a Monad instance of RDD?
> >
> >
> renaming is to flatMapData or flatTraversableMap sounds good to me (even if
> lots of people will hate it...)
> flatMap requiring a Monad would make it impossible to use with
> for-comprehension certainly no?
>
>
> > Sorry for the prose, just dropped my thoughts and feelings at once :-/
> >
> >
> I agree with you in case it can help not to feel alone ;)
>
> Pascal
>
> Cheers,
> > andy
> >
> > PS: and my English maybe, although my name's Andy I'm a native Belgian
> ^^.
> >
>

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