I have had no issues in running multiple tasks with the same tarball. I had 
four discrete Task implementations in the same jar running in production for 
months. Like you say - I had different inputs and configs for each Task but I 
don't imagine that this  is necessary as far as Yarn is concerned.  What 
exactly do you mean by 'submitting multiple jobs at once'?  I start ours one at 
a time though do not verify they are 'Running' until I've submitted all three 
instances of the jar.



Jeremiah Adams
Software Engineer
www.helixeducation.com
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________________________________________
From: Malcolm McFarland <mmcfarl...@cavulus.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 10:49 PM
To: dev@samza.apache.org
Subject: Re: Samza tasks aren't starting in YARN containers

Hey Jagadish,

Thanks for the tip. I'm including the stacktrace for a running, stuck
process. Usually when I try to restart a single process manually, it
works fine. This brings up the question: are there any
resource-contention issues with submitting multiple jobs to YARN at
once?

Also, I was using the same tarball for launch multiple Samza tasks
(but with different inputs and config). Can YARN handle this, or does
each running application need to have its own tarball? I ask this
because when I simulated using different applications by using
tarballs with different names, the chance of the applications
launching on the first try seemed to improve.

Cheers,
Malcolm


====== STACK TRACE FOR STUCK PROCESS ======

"Attach Listener" #8 daemon prio=9 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c753800
nid=0x3a5 waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE

"Service Thread" #7 daemon prio=9 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c0c2800
nid=0x2c5 runnable [0x0000000000000000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE

"C1 CompilerThread1" #6 daemon prio=9 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c0bd000
nid=0x2c4 waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE

"C2 CompilerThread0" #5 daemon prio=9 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c0ba000
nid=0x2c3 waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE

"Signal Dispatcher" #4 daemon prio=9 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c0b8000
nid=0x2c2 runnable [0x0000000000000000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE

"Finalizer" #3 daemon prio=8 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c091800
nid=0x2c1 in Object.wait() [0x00007ffb5cdfc000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
  at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
  - waiting on <0x00000000e3000af0> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
  at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:144)
  - locked <0x00000000e3000af0> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
  at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:165)
  at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:216)

"Reference Handler" #2 daemon prio=10 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c08f000
nid=0x2c0 in Object.wait() [0x00007ffb5cefd000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
  at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
  - waiting on <0x00000000e3008660> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock)
  at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:502)
  at java.lang.ref.Reference.tryHandlePending(Reference.java:191)
  - locked <0x00000000e3008660> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock)
  at java.lang.ref.Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Reference.java:153)

"main" #1 prio=5 os_prio=0 tid=0x00007ffb6c01b800 nid=0x2bc waiting on
condition [0x00007ffb75876000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: TIMED_WAITING (sleeping)
  at java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method)
  at 
org.apache.samza.util.ExponentialSleepStrategy$RetryLoopState.sleep(ExponentialSleepStrategy.scala:113)
  at 
org.apache.samza.util.ExponentialSleepStrategy.run(ExponentialSleepStrategy.scala:99)
  at org.apache.samza.util.HttpUtil$.read(HttpUtil.scala:42)
  at org.apache.samza.util.HttpUtil.read(HttpUtil.scala)
  at 
org.apache.samza.logging.log4j.StreamAppender.getConfig(StreamAppender.java:272)
  at 
org.apache.samza.logging.log4j.StreamAppender.setupSystem(StreamAppender.java:283)
  at 
org.apache.samza.logging.log4j.StreamAppender.activateOptions(StreamAppender.java:154)
  at org.apache.log4j.config.PropertySetter.activate(PropertySetter.java:307)
  at 
org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.parseAppender(DOMConfigurator.java:295)
  at 
org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.findAppenderByName(DOMConfigurator.java:176)
  at 
org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.findAppenderByReference(DOMConfigurator.java:191)
  at 
org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.parseChildrenOfLoggerElement(DOMConfigurator.java:523)
  at org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.parseRoot(DOMConfigurator.java:492)
  - locked <0x00000000e3009558> (a org.apache.log4j.spi.RootLogger)
  at org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.parse(DOMConfigurator.java:1006)
  at org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.doConfigure(DOMConfigurator.java:872)
  at org.apache.log4j.xml.DOMConfigurator.doConfigure(DOMConfigurator.java:778)
  at 
org.apache.log4j.helpers.OptionConverter.selectAndConfigure(OptionConverter.java:526)
  at org.apache.log4j.LogManager.<clinit>(LogManager.java:127)
  at org.slf4j.impl.Log4jLoggerFactory.getLogger(Log4jLoggerFactory.java:73)
  - locked <0x00000000e3009788> (a org.slf4j.impl.Log4jLoggerFactory)
  at org.slf4j.LoggerFactory.getLogger(LoggerFactory.java:253)
  at org.slf4j.LoggerFactory.getLogger(LoggerFactory.java:265)
  at 
org.apache.samza.runtime.AbstractApplicationRunner.<clinit>(AbstractApplicationRunner.java:50)
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
May 13, 2019 at 8:01 PM Jagadish Venkatraman
&lt;jagadish1...@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote
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solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Can you attach<br>
<br>
(1) the full log file for the AM?<br>
(2) the full log file for the container<br>
<br>
&gt; Btw, how do I pull a thread-dump of the stuck container?<br>
<br>
Should not be any different than a thread dump for a Java process.<br>
<br>
Log in to the machine YARN shows the container as running, locate its<br>
process-id and use jstack on the PID<br>
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&gt; java.net.ConnectException<br>
<br>
Since this is a ConnectException, can you rule out network issues? Can the<br>
AM host and container host communicate?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:47 AM Malcolm McFarland &lt;<a
href="mailto:mmcfarl...@cavulus.com";
target="_blank">mmcfarl...@cavulus.com</a>&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hey all,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Logs are working, the AM process is running. I haven't hit a
"known good<br>
&gt; version" yet; the deploy seems to be hitting this wall each time,
which,<br>
&gt; once again, seems to fail slightly differently each time. Looking
at the<br>
&gt; node manager logs, I am seeing this line being repeated:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2019-05-10 05:48:07,705 WARN
[org.apache.samza.util.Util$:7<wbr>4] Error getting<br>
&gt; response from Job coordinator server. received IOException: class<br>
&gt; java.net.ConnectException. Retrying...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There's no other information in the log about what is going on. Does<br>
&gt; anybody have ideas on this?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Btw, how do I pull a thread-dump of the stuck container?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; Malcolm<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 10:48 PM Jagadish Venkatraman &lt;<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:jagadish1...@gmail.com";
target="_blank">jagadish1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Malcolm,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Did the AM-process come up? If so, can you attach its entire
log-file?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; "&gt; everything will launch fine one time, and then it will
do this<br>
&gt; &gt; RUNNING-but-no-Samza thing the next."<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; IIUC, you believe your container is not making progress. If
the issue is<br>
&gt; &gt; recurs, can you attach a thread-dump &amp; log-file(s) of
the "stuck"<br>
&gt; &gt; container?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; "&gt; my logs are showing that Samza is not actually
starting inside of the<br>
&gt; &gt; container"<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Can you confirm that logging is actually working? eg: have
you verified<br>
&gt; &gt; there is only one log4j binding in your class-path?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Did anything change on your end? eg: did you upgrade to a
new Samza<br>
&gt; &gt; version/ app-version/yarn-version?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Can you roll-back to a known-good version to better isolate
the issue?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Best,<br>
&gt; &gt; Jagadish<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:54 PM Malcolm McFarland &lt;<a
href="mailto:mmcfarl...@cavulus.com";
target="_blank">mmcfarl...@cavulus.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; As a followup to this, here's what I see when the Samza
app tries to<br>
&gt; &gt; start;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; it actually seems to be getting to the run-container
script, and then<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; stops:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Kafka version : 0.11.0.2<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Kafka commitId : 73be1e1168f91ee2<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Error registering AppInfo mbean<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Started coordinator stream writer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; sent SetConfig message with key =
samza.autoscaling.server.url and<br>
&gt; value<br>
&gt; &gt; =<br>
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&gt; &gt; &gt; Stopping the coordinator stream producer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Stopping coordinator stream producer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Stopping producer for system: kafka<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Closing the Kafka producer with timeoutMillis =
9223372036854775807 ms.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Webapp is started at (rpc <a
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&gt; &gt; &gt; Starting YarnContainerManager.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Upper bound of the thread pool size is 500<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; yarn.client.max-cached-nodeman<wbr>agers-proxies : 0<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Got AM register response. The YARN RM supports
container requests with<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; max-mem: 8192, max-cpu: 32<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Finished starting YarnContainerManager<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Starting the Samza task manager<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Resource Request created for 0 on ANY_HOST at 1557268807252<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Requesting resources on&nbsp; ANY_HOST for container 0<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Making a request for ANY_HOST<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Starting the container allocator thread<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Received new token for :<br>
&gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal:8032<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Container allocated from RM on<br>
&gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Container allocated from RM on<br>
&gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Host affinity not enabled. Saving the samzaResource<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; container_e39_1557265340810_00<wbr>03_01_000002 in the
buffer for ANY_HOST<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Returning a buffered resource:<br>
&gt; container_e39_1557265340810_00<wbr>03_01_000002<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; for ANY_HOST from preferred-host buffer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Returning a buffered resource:<br>
&gt; container_e39_1557265340810_00<wbr>03_01_000002<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; for ANY_HOST from preferred-host buffer.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cancelling request
SamzaResourceRequest{numCores=<wbr>4, memoryMB=8192,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; preferredHost='ANY_HOST',<br>
&gt; &gt; requestID='1507e2c5-e437-409b-<wbr>821c-ef505ee19b85',<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; containerID=0, requestTimestampMs=15572688072<wbr>52}<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Found available resources on ANY_HOST. Assigning request for<br>
&gt; &gt; container_id 0<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; with timestamp 1557268807252 to resource<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; container_e39_1557265340810_00<wbr>03_01_000002<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Received launch request for 0 on hostname<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Got available container ID (0) for container:
Container: [ContainerId:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; container_e39_1557265340810_00<wbr>03_01_000002, NodeId:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal:8032,
NodeHttpAddress:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ip-10-60-31-121.us-west-2.comp<wbr>ute.internal:8088,
Resource:<br>
&gt; &lt;memory:8192,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; vCores:4&gt;, Priority: 1, Token: Token { kind:
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&gt; &gt; &gt; In runContainer in util: fwkPath=
;cmdPath=./__package/;jobLib=<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Container ID 0 using command
./__package//bin/run-container<wbr>.sh<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Malcolm<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:22 PM Malcolm McFarland &lt;<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:mmcfarl...@cavulus.com";
target="_blank">mmcfarl...@cavulus.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hey folks,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We're having some trouble running Samza under
YARN. The YARN<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; containers are launching fully into the RUNNING
state, and I can see<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; in the node manager logs that the containers are
running, but my logs<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; are showing that Samza is not actually starting
inside of the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; container. What's really curious is that this is
intermittent;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; everything will launch fine one time, and then it
will do this<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RUNNING-but-no-Samza thing the next.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I've been trying to get into the AM UI to see
what's going on, but I<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; see the following error when I try accessing it:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Problem accessing
/proxy/application_15572653408<wbr>10_0002/. Reason:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Cannot assign requested address
(Bind failed)<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Caused by:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested
address (Bind failed)<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Has anybody seen this issue with the AM web
interface? Also, are<br>
&gt; there<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; any other ways that I could introspect the YARN
container to try and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; deduce what's happening?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Malcolm<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Malcolm McFarland<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cavulus<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
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&gt; &gt; &gt; 1-800-760-6915<br>
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&gt; &gt; Graduate Student,<br>
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&gt; &gt; Stanford University<br>
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