@Renato: Thanks for your feedback. Always appreciate help from our contributors :)
@Jagadish: Thanks for stating your points. It is clear that you are against the butterfly ones. But are you in support of any of the others? Please vote :) Thanks! Navina On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Jagadish Venkatraman < jagadish1...@gmail.com> wrote: > FWIW, I have a contrarian perspective on this one. Here's my 2 cents: > > I'm -1 for having for our logo to do anything with a butterfly. > > - Samza and Kafka are separate top-level projects. I do not think the > connection to Franz Kafka's novel on "metamorphosis", and the fact that a > salesman named "Samsa" in the novel was transformed to an "insect" should > dictate our logo. Agreed, the butterfly is a cute insect remotely > relatable(?) to stream processing via a convoluted story. > > - For a choice of a mascot, I'd much rather have something that signifies > scale, sturdiness or swiftness instead of a cute butterfly :-) > > - The 2 other non-butterfly logos at-least have a "node", "stream", > "edges", "graph" like feel which I like. > > Thanks, > Jagadish > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Jacob Maes <jacob.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think I voted the exact opposite to everyone else in this thread. > > > > I don't want anything to do with a butterfly. The metaphor is even > further > > removed from the Samsa story than a cockroach, so I think we should give > up > > on that. I don't want a mascot; we're not building a university football > > team. And as animals go, the only slower one I can think of is a sloth, > so > > I don't feel a butterfly says "scalable stream processing". This, > combined > > with my preference to eschew the color red for logos, puts the red > > butterfly last. > > > > The blue butterfly is a little more abstract and formal looking, but > still > > a butterfly, so that is second to last. > > > > The other 2 are very close, in my opinion. > > > > The one with the circles is reminiscent of orbital loops, which gives me > > the feeling of scale. It also has the dots at varying places along the > > lines, which to me conveys the different proportions of input/output > stream > > sizes/TTLs. And the cyclical shape could also be used for animations > > portraying the concept of "reprocessing" > > > > The one with the "S" dots reminds me of the Kafka logo without the lines. > > If the lines are the streams and the dots are processing nodes, then I > > think it's clever for the Samza logo to be a "negative" of the Kafka one. > > That's not to say samza is any more related to Kafka than it is; but if > the > > Kafka logo says "streams" then to me this Samza logo says "processors" > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Ignacio Solis <iso...@igso.net> wrote: > > > > > You're making me feel bad for linking that one! :-) > > > > > > I don't see it as a maze. To me, that one is like circles that turn, > > > representing the processing. Like cogs on an engine. The little > > > circles are like the messages. The concentric circles are like the > > > streams. > > > > > > The red butterfly is my second favorite. > > > > > > Vote note: > > > > > > Once we close voting we'll look at the actual results. The way the > > > ranking gets calculated it you don't vote for a design at all, that > > > vote does not get factored in. It assumes you have no opinion. So if > > > somebody votes 5 stars on A and 1 start on B. And second person only > > > votes 5 stars on B, then the ranking would be A-5 stars, B-3 stars. > > > (or something along those lines). So if you only vote on the 5 star > > > ones, you're missing your vote on the ones you don't like. > > > > > > So, once we close, we'll see how people voted. > > > > > > Nacho > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Really? The one with the maze on the left currently is top one? I > can't > > > > relate to that either. My favorite was the logo w/ Taiji symbol. > Since > > > that > > > > did not make the top 4, I am voting for the red bufferfly one, same > as > > > > Navina. > > > > > > > > -Yi > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Navina Ramesh > > > <nram...@linkedin.com.invalid > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I prefer to have open discussions in the official mailing list or > JIRA > > > >> since it is an open-community. It also helps track the discussions. > > > >> > > > >> Fwiw, I am in favor of the red themed butterfly design because: > > > >> 1. Knowing the origin of the name "Samza" (from Gregor Samsa > character > > > in > > > >> "Metamorphosis"), it isn't very far-fetched in terms of relating > > stream > > > >> processing to some kind of transformation. Butterfly is probably the > > > >> prettiest insect to associate with "metamorphosis", without giving > the > > > >> impression of a bug :) > > > >> 2. Red theme ties it with the current logo, although we can > improvise > > on > > > >> the gradients. > > > >> 3. We can have a "mascot" , instead of an abstract symbol. > > > >> > > > >> One comment on the butterfly one - it seems to have only 1 antenna. > > > >> > > > >> -1 for the dots only logo. It feels like a color-blindness test :D > > > >> -1 for the blue-based logo - it is just not relatable and it's an > > > extreme > > > >> change from the current one. > > > >> > > > >> I couldn't relate to the circular one. What are are trying to > > > portray/imply > > > >> here. That we are a bunch of disconnected links? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > > >> Navina > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Ignacio Solis <iso...@igso.net> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Vote directly at design crowd. But feel free to leave comments > > here, > > > >> > maybe you can try to persuade people or argue for your favorite. > :-) > > > >> > > > > >> > Nacho > > > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Navina Ramesh > > > >> > <nram...@linkedin.com.invalid> wrote: > > > >> > > Hi Nacho, > > > >> > > Do you want us to vote on this mail thread or directly at design > > > crowd? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks! > > > >> > > Navina > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Ignacio Solis <iso...@igso.net > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hi folks. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> After some feedback and culling, we are down to 4 candidates. > > > Please > > > >> > >> vote on your favorite designs. We will be able to make minor > > > >> > >> modifications to the selected logo as we talk to the designer. > > We > > > can > > > >> > >> always have changes in colors or fonts. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> http://www.designcrowd.com/vote/apachesamzalogo > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> This poll will stay open for about a week to collect all votes > > and > > > >> > >> comments. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> For completeness, the relevant JIRA is this: > > > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMZA-1111 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cheers, > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Nacho > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -- > > > >> > >> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - iso...@igso.net > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Navina R. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Nacho - Ignacio Solis - iso...@igso.net > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Navina R. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Nacho - Ignacio Solis - iso...@igso.net > > > > > > > > > -- > Jagadish V, > Graduate Student, > Department of Computer Science, > Stanford University > -- Navina R.
