Hi Chinmay and Pan,

Thanks Chinmay for initialize the conversation. Pan, please feel free to
give comments on the design, specially suggestions about improving
efficiency of fault handling.


Best Regards
Peter Huang



On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Chinmay Soman <chinmay.cere...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> FYI: I've forwarded it to Yi's personal email. Yi: please feel free to
> email Peter (CC'ed) or me about any questions. FYI: the real solution would
> be to implement standby containers. This solution is an attempt to do the
> same.
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It might be the mail list restriction. Could you try to my personal email
>> (i.e. nickpa...@gmail.com)?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Chinmay Soman <
>> chinmay.cere...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It shows as attached in my sent email. That's weird.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi, Chinmay,
>> > >
>> > > Did you forget to attach? I did not see the attachment in your last
>> > email.
>> > > Or is it due to the mail list restriction?
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Chinmay Soman <
>> > chinmay.cere...@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Sorry for the long delay (I was trying to find the design doc we
>> made).
>> > > > Please see attachment for the design doc. I'm also CC'ing Peter
>> Huang
>> > > (the
>> > > > intern) who worked on this.
>> > > >
>> > > > Disclaimer: Given this was an internship project, we've cut some
>> > corners.
>> > > > We plan to come up with an improved version in some time.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi, Chinmay,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> That's awesome! Could you share some design doc of this feature? We
>> > > would
>> > > >> love to have this feature in LinkedIn as well!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Yi
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Chinmay Soman <
>> > > chinmay.cere...@gmail.com
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > FYI: As part of an Uber internship project, we were working on
>> > exactly
>> > > >> this
>> > > >> > problem. Our approach was to do a rolling restart of all the
>> > > containers
>> > > >> > wherein we start a "replica" container for each primary container
>> > and
>> > > >> let
>> > > >> > it "catch up" before we do the switch. Of course this doesn't
>> > > guarantee
>> > > >> > zero downtime, but it does guarantee minimum time to upgrade each
>> > such
>> > > >> > container.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > The code is still in POC, but we do plan to finish this and make
>> > this
>> > > >> > available. Let me know if you're interested in trying it out.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > FYI: the sticky container deployment will also minimize the time
>> to
>> > > >> upgrade
>> > > >> > / deploy since majority of the upgrade time is taken up by the
>> > > >> container in
>> > > >> > reading all the changelog (if any). Upgrade / re-deploy will also
>> > > take a
>> > > >> > long time if the checkpoint topic is not log compacted (which is
>> > true
>> > > in
>> > > >> > our environment).
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Thanks,
>> > > >> > C
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bae, Jae Hyeon <
>> metac...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > Hi Samza devs and users
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > I know this will be tricky in Samza because Samza Kafka
>> consumer
>> > is
>> > > >> not
>> > > >> > > coordinated externally, but do you have any idea how to deploy
>> > samza
>> > > >> jobs
>> > > >> > > with zero downtime?
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Thank you
>> > > >> > > Best, Jae
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > Thanks and regards
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Chinmay Soman
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Thanks and regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Chinmay Soman
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks and regards
>> >
>> > Chinmay Soman
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and regards
>
> Chinmay Soman
>

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