Hi,

sorry If I ask for things too obvious. But what I don't understand is why
we need to use a MS server like Azure and why other projects don't. What
they offer to us that we can't get with standard Apache infrastructure
servers. Understanding that could make us search for a solution and even
try to search it in standard Apache.
For example, I understand that we use CI to get nightly builds, so we have
a page where all artifacts are posted in a daily basis. So, maybe we could
get something similar in github and get builds.a.o do the jobs?




El mar., 17 nov. 2020 a las 17:11, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
escribió:

> That is the Azure VM that Apache and Microsoft have made available to us.
> Microsoft generously provides free Azure credits to open source committers.
>
> Last time we had this problem, I discovered that the version of Windows we
> are running has a bug/feature where some background task spends several
> days running at 50% CPU.  This causes our free credits to run out before
> the end of month.  Before I was able to find some solution to the
> background task, it finished whatever it was doing, and for the past few
> months the background task has done whatever it needs to do without causing
> problems so I stopped looking into it.  But I'm guessing that again this
> month, that task caused us to run out of credits.
>
> I don't remember exactly when the next month starts (pretty sure it isn't
> the 1st), and I'll receive an email when the next batch of credits are put
> in my account.
>
> As I've mentioned several times, it would be a good idea for other
> committers to set up similar VMs as backups to mine.  If you want, you can
> even provide a credit card to charge overage credits against so your VM
> will never go down, but you might end up paying significant money if some
> task runs at 50% CPU for a month.  I'm not generous enough to do that for
> Royale at this time.
>
> It also just occurred to me that someone could set up a task on builds.a.o
> that copies artifacts from this VM and have our website point there instead
> of directly to the VM.  That way if it does run out of credits, it won't
> make as big a problem.
>
> And, of course, some third party could provide a VM.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> On 11/17/20, 6:28 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I don’t think this is Alex machine. We have Azure from Apache.
>
>     On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 14:28, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>     > Ops! :(
>     >
>     > I think this was Alex's machine? Can someone explain the need for an
>     > external azure server? Really don't know anything about the history
> of
>     > that. Also if there's possibility to host in Apache infra?
>     >
>     > El mar., 17 nov. 2020 a las 11:09, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com>)
>     > escribió:
>     >
>     > > Ugh. And I was going to work on the release today...
>     > >
>     > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     > > wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > Hi Guys,
>     > > >
>     > > > Did you notice that page [1] - is unavailable ?
>     > > >
>     > > > [1]
>     > >
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapacheroyaleci2.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com%3A8080%2Fjob%2Froyale-asjs%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cc715f06063174d6cd25808d88b050b3f%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637412201062346288%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=u1%2FWad0OvmmIjhHSCE6ADGpp%2BX5PMhcSsS%2FWwk3UaxM%3D&amp;reserved=0
>     > > >
>     > > > Thanks,
>     > > > --
>     > > >
>     > > > Piotr Zarzycki
>     > >
>     > >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Carlos Rovira
>     > Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC
>     > *Apache Software Foundation*
>     >
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>
>     Piotr Zarzycki
>
>

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