That would be fine. I am stuck, evidently, at something in the 0.9.6
release of the JS-only version being broken.

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On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 7:09 PM Josh Tynjala <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Node/npm is pretty normal prerequisite for most JS development these days,
> but I understand your point.
>
> Ideally, we should be encouraging developers to start with the JS-only
> version, which doesn't require any of those special dependencies (other
> than Java, which is necessary to run the compiler).
>
> --
> Josh Tynjala
> Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 2:41 PM Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Instructions that require Ant or npm are not, in my humble opinion,
> > entry-level instructions. I should not have to be an SDK constructor in
> > order to use Royale to build the apps I want to build.
> >
> > The instructions need to be a TON clearer, and more obvious from the
> > typical entry points where a new user would encounter Royale. We should
> > possibly also add qualifiers to any statements that an IDE like Moonshine
> > supports Royale. It does not support Royale as we deliver it, but only
> > after it has been tweaked by processes that are obvious to those
> developing
> > Royale but not to the world at large.
> >
> > Sorry if I sound irked, but consider that my reaction may mirror that of
> > many who want to try Royale out but trip over the starting line.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
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> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:52 PM Josh Tynjala <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The main royale-asjs README mentions the Adobe stuff as optional
> > > dependencies, but the instructions seem to be aimed at contributors:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs#additional-prerequisites-for-swf-output
> > >
> > > What a non-contributor user is expected to do appears to be mentioned
> on
> > > this page (it requires running the InstallAdobeSDKs.xml Ant script):
> > >
> > > https://apache.github.io/royale-docs/get-started/download-royale
> > >
> > > I recall that if you install the npm version of Royale, it will ask to
> > > download the Adobe dependencies for you. That's probably the easiest
> way
> > > for a new user to get started.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Josh Tynjala
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:44 PM Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks @Josh Tynjala <[email protected]> . Do we say that
> > > > anywhere in the instructions where a new user would run into it?
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:27 PM Josh Tynjala <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> If you downloaded the js-swf binary distribution, you need to add
> the
> > > >> Adobe
> > > >> dependencies manually. We cannot distribute them.
> > > >>
> > > >> The playerglobal.swc in the js-only version is not the real one from
> > > >> Adobe.
> > > >> It's just a placeholder to make certain IDEs happy. I think it's
> just
> > a
> > > >> copy of js.swc.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Josh Tynjala
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:16 PM Andrew Wetmore <[email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I wiped out the previous project and tried again with the Royale
> > > JS-SWF
> > > >> > version. When I try to compile the project in Moonshine for either
> > JS
> > > or
> > > >> > Flash, I see this error message: "This SDK does not contains
> > > >> > playerglobal.swc in frameworks\libs\player\11.7\playerglobal.swc.
> > > >> Download
> > > >> > playerglobal here". When I look in the package for the JS-only
> > > version,
> > > >> > playerglobal is there. I do not see it in the JS_SWF version.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > <
> > > >> >
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> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:07 PM Alex Harui
> <[email protected]
> > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > When you build with AIR_HOME (which is required to create
> release
> > > >> > > artifacts, since we want to produce both jsonly and js-swf in
> one
> > > >> run), a
> > > >> > > different target called "jsonly-package" run and tries to muck
> > with
> > > >> some
> > > >> > > files before packaging the js-only artifacts.  It could be that
> > the
> > > >> > > jsonly-package needs updating now that SWF SWCs are listed in
> > > >> > > royale-config.xml.  That means we've had this bug for months and
> > > >> nobody
> > > >> > > noticed until now.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -Alex
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 10/9/19, 9:38 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <[email protected]
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >     It looks like the Ant target that updates the library-path
> for
> > > the
> > > >> > > JS-only
> > > >> > >     build is called tweak-for-jsonly. Copied here for
> convenience:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >     I see that it has unless="env.AIR_HOME", which means that
> this
> > > >> target
> > > >> > > is
> > > >> > >     skipped if the AIR_HOME environment variable is set. With
> that
> > > in
> > > >> > > mind, I'm
> > > >> > >     guessing that AIR_HOME needs to be set for the js-swf build,
> > but
> > > >> > > cleared
> > > >> > >     for the js-only build.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >     --
> > > >> > >     Josh Tynjala
> > > >> > >     Bowler Hat LLC <
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
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> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >     On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 6:52 AM Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >> > > [email protected]>
> > > >> > >     wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >     > Hi Guys,
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > It looks like we have broken royale-config in released
> SDK.
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >> > > raised
> > > >> > >     > in Moonshine GitHub issue that he couldn't build Hello
> World
> > > >> > > project. I
> > > >> > >     > tried Moonshine and downloaded JS-only version of SDK. I
> get
> > > >> > > following
> > > >> > >     > error [1].
> > > >> > >     > I downloaded JS-SWF version and tried compile project
> again
> > -
> > > >> this
> > > >> > > time it
> > > >> > >     > went fine.
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > JS-only version of released 0.9.6 contains in section
> > > >> > > <library-path> -
> > > >> > >     > list of swc. - Those swc doesn't exists in JS-only.
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > Fragment of config
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > > <library-path>
> > > >> > >     > >          <path-element>libs/Basic.swc</path-element>
> > > >> > >     > >          <path-element>libs/Binding.swc</path-element>
> > > >> > >     > >          <path-element>libs/Charts.swc</path-element>
> > > >> > >     > >
> <path-element>libs/Collections.swc</path-element>
> > > >> > >     > >          <path-element>libs/Core.swc</path-element>
> > > >> > >     > > ....
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > JS-only nightly build of 0.9.7 - doesn't contains in that
> > > >> section
> > > >> > > anything
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > >       <library-path>
> > > >> > >     > >       </library-path>
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > [1]
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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> > > >> > >     > Thanks,
> > > >> > >     > --
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> > >     >
> > > >> > >     > Patreon: *
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
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> > > >> >
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