I'm in favor to name that page Thanks to. Totally agree with Carlos. With
me currently would be the same, one year ago or more I could work on stuff
without any help from the companies, but right now it's the opposite.

Without people who helping me at least very little on Patreon or
Prominic.NET who also is a big supporter of that project and finally Josh's
nextgenactionscript.com - I would just disappear from the mailing list
totally. They also deserve to be on that page.

Thanks,
Piotr

2018-03-29 10:22 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>:

> Hi Harbs,
>
> my opinion is that is a bit a false modesty to not even list that Adobe,
> Codeoscopic and PrintUI along IntelliJ and BrowserStack are donating both
> Human Resources, services and infrastructure.
> That doesn't hurt the project, just the opposite, since there are
> individuals and companies that are betting for this project, while doesn't
> compromise the main motive of its open source nature.
>
> The fact is that if Adobe don't pay Alex and Peter, we didn't have Royale
> today, the same for Harbs and for me. In my case, if Codeoscopic don't pay
> me I could not invest in make Jewel and Themes, so we'd not have such
> feature at least for my part. So, as I said, I see only benefits in
> recognize what they are donating.
>
> my 2 cnts
>
>
>
> 2018-03-29 10:12 GMT+02:00 Harbs <[email protected]>:
>
> > I’m a bit on the fence on putting thanks to companies paying employees to
> > work on Royale. I’m much more comfortable with thanks for actual tools.
> It
> > feels a bit “weird” to me, but I could probably go either way. In a
> certain
> > sense, it might look better for the project to have more “thanks” listed
> > there.
> >
> > FWIW, my own company — PrintUI (which I’m an owner of) is paying both me
> > and Yishay to work on Royale.
> >
> > Harbs
> >
> > > On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Om,
> > >
> > > 2018-03-28 19:45 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> > >
> > >> I wouldn't call them sponsors.  There is an ASF level Sponsorship page
> > [1]
> > >> and this might conflict with that.
> > >>
> > >> I think a `Thanks to` page is fine.
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you prefer that name is ok for me I'll change to it. I propose
> > > "Sponsors" since sounds more appropriate to me, but "Thanks To" is ok
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Also, Adobe is seen twice :-)
> > >>
> > >
> > > I said in my email that logos was not set yet. I didn't want to work on
> > > that if there was some problem with this page. I only created a "draft"
> > to
> > > show the intention. As well texts only said why companies listed are
> > there,
> > > but not final text for the same reason
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> And just as a disclaimer, you are the owner of Codescopic, right?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Right, but what do you want to say with that? ownership of a company is
> > one
> > > thing, I'm as well employee of my own company that is paying me to
> invest
> > > time in this project, in the same way Adobe pay Peter and Alex. As
> well I
> > > can choose to put some infrastructure resources of Codeoscopic to help
> > this
> > > project.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Om
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > [email protected]
> > >>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Carlos,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think you should wait a bit longer. I personally always wait about
> 48
> > >>> hours, due to time shifts it is the most reasonable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Piotr
> > >>>
> > >>> 2018-03-28 18:32 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> so if there's no agree/disagree with the new sponsors page I assume
> I
> > >> can
> > >>>> go with it and complete?
> > >>>> I'll wait a few hours
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Carlos
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2018-03-28 0:33 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I created a draft page on website for this:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * I called it "Sponsors", that are the companies or people we, the
> > >> PMC
> > >>>>> want to thank you as described here [1]
> > >>>>> * Link is below in Royale first column menu in footer
> > >>>>> * Since we need a new page that tis not home, I thought in what
> more
> > >>>>> companies a side of BrowserStack we want to give thanks. I think
> > >> about
> > >>> 4
> > >>>>> for now, and maybe you can point more to list here.
> > >>>>> * Let me know if you agree with the current list, is some other
> > >> company
> > >>>>> /people missed ??
> > >>>>> * I put some temporal logos to layout the page, first I want to
> know
> > >> if
> > >>>>> you agree
> > >>>>> * texts are temporal as well, I put the main motivations why we are
> > >>>> saying
> > >>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you agree, I'll complete the page with logos and texts:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/sponsors/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2018-03-27 10:56 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]
> >:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ok, I'll be doing that in the next few hours.
> > >>>>>> thanks both
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2018-03-27 10:40 GMT+02:00 Harbs <[email protected]>:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for the link to the guidelines.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Note that rel=“nofollow” is not actually a requirement. The only
> > >>>>>>> requirement is to have a consistent policy.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would probably create a thank you page on the Royale website
> and
> > >>> link
> > >>>>>>> to that page in the readme. (i.e. Thank you to our sponsors or
> > >>> similar
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>>> a link to the full page.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mclean <
> > >>>> [email protected]>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I contacted Browserstack to use the open source plan and it's
> ok
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>>> do so.
> > >>>>>>>>> They only ask for us to put on our Github Readme page:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> * an hyperlink to their site with his logo [1]
> > >>>>>>>>> * and a line about how we use BrowserStack to help our project
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It's ok to do so? Can I add it to our readme and finish the
> > >>> process
> > >>>>>>> to get
> > >>>>>>>>> the OS license?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I don't think it would be permissible to put it in the readme
> but
> > >>> it
> > >>>>>>> can be placed on a thank you page [1] on the Apache Royale site.
> > >> Note
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> rel=“nofollow” requirement and the other (minor) conditions.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> Justin
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#
> projectthanks
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>
> > >>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > >>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



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