I don’t have any ideas on how to handle this without *some* class.

The “LayoutManager” class (or whatever you want to call it), does not need to 
really *do* anything besides call the passed in function for simple layouts.

Do you have any ideas on how we can inject something in to make it truly PAYG?

Harbs

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Harbs,
> 
> IMO, HelloWorld and many other examples don't need a LayoutManager in the
> output.  So as long as LayoutManager is only brought in by the Layouts
> that need it it doesn't matter to me whether there is such a thing or not.
> 
> As a very minor point, I'm not clear that it is only Absolute layouts that
> need sizing logic so maybe there is a better name: Custom, Computed.  And
> on the SWF side, everything sort of ends up being absolute.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Alex
> 
> On 3/27/18, 12:33 PM, "Harbs" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> I was thinking that the solution might be as simple as dispatching
>> layoutStart and layoutComplete events. We already have layoutComplete,
>> and instead of blindly measuring, we can dispatch layoutStart. The parent
>> layout can decide whether measuring is necessary or not.
>> 
>> I’d keep the LayoutManager, but it would only delay layout if measuring
>> is in fact necessary. If not, the layout would get executed immediately.
>> 
>> I’d pull all the sizing logic out of LayoutBase and I’d create a new
>> AbsoluteLayoutBase which has all that kind of logic.
>> 
>> I’m pretty sure this would enable lean browser-based layouts as well as
>> robust absolute layouts as needed.
>> 
>> Makes sense?
>> 
>> (And yes, after Passover I hope to help with the emulation components.)
>> 
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harbs,
>>> 
>>> My recommendations are to refactor LayoutBase so that folks who feel
>>> more
>>> comfortable letting the browser do the resizing can.  If you want to
>>> build
>>> out a completely different set of layout classes that don't use the
>>> browser at all, feel free to do so.  Some folks will probably trust
>>> Royale
>>> more if they can recognize common patterns in the DOM for layout,
>>> regardless of performance.  I'm having trouble believing that every
>>> production JS app has had to use absolute positioning to get
>>> satisfactory
>>> responsiveness.
>>> 
>>> I do not think we have the people power to try to write and debug every
>>> one of our layouts to use absolute positioning at this time.  I am
>>> hoping
>>> you can get your app up to sufficient speed soon and then can help us
>>> write emulation components instead of trying to optimize all of our
>>> existing layouts.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> On 3/27/18, 12:37 AM, "Harbs" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Again: I’m not arguing that we should not have layouts which
>>>> encapsulate
>>>> common website practices. Simple can sometimes be good, but simple is
>>>> not
>>>> always the same as performant. Your assumption that native browser
>>>> layout
>>>> is fastest is simply not true. The browser generally needs to do a full
>>>> sweep every time it calculates layout.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you run a performance timeline on those examples you linked to? Try
>>>> resizing the window and you will see how jerky the layout actually is.
>>>> Each re-render takes considerable measurable time.
>>>> 
>>>> Compare that to something like GSAP[1]. GSAP has hands-down the best
>>>> performance on HTML animations.[2] One of the main reasons is because
>>>> EVERYTHING is set using absolute positioning and does not rely on
>>>> browser
>>>> layout at all. GSAP has a crazy amount of javascript to calculate how
>>>> big
>>>> and where (and color, etc) everything needs to be on each animation
>>>> frame, but it’s smooth as silk.
>>>> 
>>>> Additionally, there are many cases where we need to get size and
>>>> position
>>>> using javascript. Some examples: Drawing a hover effect over an item
>>>> renderer —  or better: getting the position for drag and drop while
>>>> changing visuals as the drag indicator moves around. Animations (and
>>>> many
>>>> animations are difficult or impossible to create by just using css. My
>>>> app has no end to the number of places where I need to get position. In
>>>> short, the average website will probably not need very much in terms of
>>>> recalculating and css can be a good option for that, but many
>>>> applications will and will probably need absolute positioning to get
>>>> the
>>>> best performance.
>>>> 
>>>> Harbs
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Harbs, Piotr,
>>>>> 
>>>>> see this link [1] and [2]
>>>>> 
>>>>> This are only CSS rules to layout content. Here you have all the use
>>>>> cases
>>>>> we could have in a Royale app. things inside things that layouts
>>>>> responsively using percentage widths (see width:75% in examples and
>>>>> how
>>>>> this resizes with the resize of a window, and more... Don't see
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> we
>>>>> must do that is not there. And is only CSS. So my point is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.- They are using the browser layout implementations vía CSS or in
>>>>> other
>>>>> words the native rendering engine of a browser, and that's without
>>>>> doubt
>>>>> the most performant we can go
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2.- This is accomplished in the most easy and simple way to go that is
>>>>> through CSS code without any JS programing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, finaly, we only need to do as easy as that. generating good simple
>>>>> html
>>>>> and css. We already did that leveraging MDL (and only encapsulating
>>>>> what
>>>>> mdl people did), now is what I do with Jewel, trying to put that
>>>>> knowledge
>>>>> and the standards things I see in encapsulated patterns to make it
>>>>> easy
>>>>> to
>>>>> program in Royale.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So again, I continue without know what we need that is not there.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> if
>>>>> in that examples we have all things...we're done...we only need to
>>>>> encapsulate it in Royale as css and make it accesible vía Royale API,
>>>>> and
>>>>> we don't need to deal with any complex programmatic code.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] 
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>>>>> 2018-03-27 0:42 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Reading Harbs and his real world example maybe that approach with
>>>>>> saving
>>>>>> some values is a big winner for Royale. Instead going with the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> Flow
>>>>>> of web design let's try and see what happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today I had pretty interesting chat with my friend who has deeper
>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>> about JS stuff. He said that too many people is going with the Flow
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> has been served by bigger players like Facebook - React etc. Although
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> pretty awesome framework it's just failing when you have BIG fat
>>>>>> complex
>>>>>> application, where performance is important, not saying about quality
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> code.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see we may win on all of that fields. Maybe different approach is
>>>>>> solution, instead blindly believe in the browser and better
>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> in the future.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2018-03-27 0:22 GMT+02:00 Harbs <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Case in point:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In my app, I’m using OneFlexibleChildHorizontalLayout which uses
>>>>>> flexbox.
>>>>>>> Great. No need for writing values. Right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not so fast.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have fit to view functionality in my app which needs to get the
>>>>>>> size of
>>>>>>> the flexibleChild which is the container to figure out how much to
>>>>>>> scale
>>>>>>> the content. The entire fit function takes 36 ms to run. The height
>>>>>> getter
>>>>>>> on the flexibleChild *alone* takes 14 ms. If the size of the
>>>>>> flexibleChild
>>>>>>> was hard-coded, the getter would not take measurable time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have tons of hard coded size and positioning of SVG in my app
>>>>>> (literally
>>>>>>> hundreds of DOM objects) and it runs ridiculously fast compared to
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Recalculate Styles which are caused by default browser layout.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’d really love to get some hard numbers from comparing the
>>>>>>> approaches.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:28 PM, Harbs <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With hard-coded values DOM interaction could be kept to a minimum.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> would be an interesting experiment to see what would happen if we
>>>>>>> *don’t*
>>>>>>> rely on browser layout and hard code everything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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