For "what is breaking changes", at least the PULL_REQUEST_TEMPLATE gives
some hints:
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/blob/bbb543d8ed2b03361807c852da1a31cfb92939f3/.github/PULL_REQUEST_TEMPLATE.md?plain=1#L56-L72

For the issued PR, Hang commented at
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/15914#issuecomment-1146942281 that it
changes the default behavior.

An alternative is that the original PR author can hint a ! in title or
BREAKING CHANGE and commit message like conventionalcommits spec defines.

Best,
tison.


tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2023年2月28日周二 13:07写道:

> > The release manager is unable to review all PRs before releasing it.
>
> At least the RM is responsible for PRs cherry-picked he/she made. As we
> take compatibility in a high priority, if it's unclear a fix (patch)
> without breaking changes, the RM can ask for confirmation.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> PengHui Li <peng...@apache.org> 于2023年2月28日周二 12:45写道:
>
>> Hi enrico,
>>
>> +1 for your point.
>>
>> Do you know the details of the breaking change?
>> I can't find any discussions under the mailing list about the breaking
>> change.
>>
>> I have added the `release/important-notice ` label to the PR, and we
>> should
>> also discuss first, better to have a proposal if we are making breaking
>> changes.
>>
>> IMO, the main issue here is that the release manager doesn't know the PR
>> is
>> introducing breaking changes, rather than thinking that the introduction
>> of
>> breaking changes is reasonable to the patch release. I noticed Jason had
>> added the release/* label, I think he also isn't aware of the breaking
>> change.
>>
>> The release manager is unable to review all PRs before releasing it.
>> And the PR title said
>>
>> "[Fix][Tiered Storage] Eagerly Delete Offloaded Segments On Topic
>> Deletion".
>>
>> My impression, it also should be bug fix.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Penghui
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:32 AM Xiangying Meng <xiangy...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Enrico Olivelli,
>> >
>> > Totally agree, we should be careful when cherry-picking PRs. And we
>> can't
>> > trust our own judgment too much. For an uncertain PR, we must submit a
>> PR
>> > and wait for everyone to review it together.
>> > For example, for the PR [1] mentioned above, the measure I took was to
>> push
>> > a PR to cherry-pick and move it to the next release version (2.10.5) so
>> > that we have enough time to discuss and reach an agreement.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Xiangying
>> > [1]
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/19640#pullrequestreview-1315805022
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:56 AM Yubiao Feng
>> > <yubiao.f...@streamnative.io.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > >  Hi Enrico Olivelli
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for helping me correct my mistake
>> > >
>> > > Yubiao Feng
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:27 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello Committers,
>> > > > I believe that we should stop cherry-picking breaking changes like
>> [1]
>> > > > to released branches.
>> > > > Really, this is something that we cannot do.
>> > > >
>> > > > When you decide to cherry-pick a commit to a "stable branch",
>> > > > currently branch-2.8, branch-2.9, branch-2.10 and branch-2.11 you
>> > > > always have to think about these things:
>> > > > - is it a breaking change ?
>> > > > - is it really needed ?
>> > > > - could it mine the stability of the branch ?
>> > > >
>> > > > The answer is usually that you can cherry-pick a change only if it
>> > > > falls into these categories:
>> > > > - there is a security hole to fix (in this case the PMC has to deal
>> > > > with it, and usually this is done not publicly)
>> > > > - there is a bad bug that cause data loss or other serious problems
>> > > >
>> > > > I have sent this message a few other times in the past.
>> > > > We, the Pulsar community, are responsible for the stability of the
>> > > > project and product that our users use in production.
>> > > >
>> > > > Even if you think that something that could "improve the
>> performance"
>> > > > or "do something better" is appealing you always have to keep in
>> mind
>> > > > that the risk of breaking something that is stable is too high in
>> > > > respect to the gain in terms of performances or anything else.
>> > > >
>> > > > Improvements should go only to the master branch, and users will
>> > > > benefit from them when we will cut a release.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is a free OSS project on which many users count on.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you are eager to see a performance improvement in your system,
>> then
>> > > > this is fine,
>> > > > this is OSS and you can legally have a fork and cherry-pick the
>> > > > patches and build it on your own.
>> > > > This is the reason why OSS is cool.
>> > > > But if you are able to cherry-pick a patch you are also able to
>> > > > maintain your fork and fix any problems if the patch caused a
>> > > > regression.
>> > > >
>> > > > Most of the consumers of OSS products rely on us because they don't
>> > > > have enough engineering resources to maintain such a project by
>> > > > themselves.
>> > > >
>> > > > They trust us and they won't scan a list of tens of commits in order
>> > > > to double check if the upgrade will change the behaviour of their
>> > > > applications.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is Pulsar momentum, let's do our best to fulfill the
>> expectations
>> > > > of the companies that are adopting our project.
>> > > >
>> > > > Enrico
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]
>> > > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/19640#pullrequestreview-1315805022
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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