> It does not affect the public API so it can be cherry-picked into old > branches. The main difference with this proposal is that my solution > carries the identity info (i.e. `AUTO_CONSUME`) in the schema data, > which is a byte array. The negative schema types should not be exposed > to users. Adding a field to the subscribe request might be okay but it > could be unnecessary to cover such a corner case.
This will change the meaning of the schema data field and couple the schema type and schema data. `schema type = NONE` and `schema data = "AUTO_CONSUME" ` represent `AUTO_ CONSUME`, I think it's weird. Why can't we upload negative schema types? > It does not affect the public API upload negative schema types only changes the proto, if using `schema type = NONE` and `schema data = "AUTO_CONSUME" `, every different language client will code the special logic. This special logic can easily be ignored. Thanks, Bo Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2023年1月4日周三 17:02写道: > > I opened a PR to fix this issue: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/19128 > > It does not affect the public API so it can be cherry-picked into old > branches. The main difference with this proposal is that my solution > carries the identity info (i.e. `AUTO_CONSUME`) in the schema data, > which is a byte array. The negative schema types should not be exposed > to users. Adding a field to the subscribe request might be okay but it > could be unnecessary to cover such a corner case. > > It might be controversial if schema data should be used in such a way, > because the original purpose is to represent the AVRO or JSON > definition. However, this semantic is defined just for AVRO or JSON > schema. IMO, the data field of other schemas is never used well. > > Another solution is to make use of the name field of schema, which > might be more natural. I think we can continue the discussion in my > PR. > > Thanks, > Yunze > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io> wrote: > > > > Modifying the subscribe request is better than exposing AUTO_CONSUME > > schema type IMO. The negative value of a schema type, like BYTES, > > AUTO_PRODUCE, means this schema type should only be used internally. > > Adding the negative enum value to the Schema definition in > > PulsarApi.proto looks very weird. > > > > But I'm still wondering if we can avoid the API changes. I will look > > deeper into this issue. > > > > Thanks, > > Yunze > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 12:12 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Il Mar 3 Gen 2023, 14:37 Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> ha > > > scritto: > > > > > > > Hi Bo, > > > > > > > > I got it now. The PIP title sounds ambiguous. Using the term "Upload > > > > xxx SchemaType" sounds like uploading the schema into the registry. > > > > Instead, it should be "carrying schema in the request when subscribing > > > > with AUTO_CONSUME schema". > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that we should change the naming and we should probably not use a > > > new Schema type but add an optional field in the subscribe request (and do > > > not send it if the broker is an old version) > > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Yunze > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:56 PM 丛搏 <bog...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Yunze > > > > > > What I am concerned about is that if the old clients with other > > > > > > schemas (i.e. schema is neither null nor AUTO_CONSUME) subscribe to > > > > > > the topic with AUTO_CONSUME schema, what will happen? > > > > > > > > > > AUTO_CONSUME schema will not store in `SchemaRegistryServiceImpl`, it > > > > > only represents one consumer with AUTO_CONSUME schema to subscribe to > > > > > a topic. If old clients with other schemas subscribe to this topic, > > > > > Its behavior will not be changed by this PIP. > > > > > > > > > > > What's the schema compatibility check rule on a topic with > > > > AUTO_CONSUME schema? > > > > > > > > > > it's only the consumer schema compatibility check, not on topic. if a > > > > > consume with AUTO_CONSUME schema will do any compatibility check > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bo > > > > > > > > > > Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2023年1月3日周二 10:16写道: > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am concerned about is that if the old clients with other > > > > > > schemas (i.e. schema is neither null nor AUTO_CONSUME) subscribe to > > > > > > the topic with AUTO_CONSUME schema, what will happen? What's the > > > > > > schema compatibility check rule on a topic with AUTO_CONSUME schema? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Yunze > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 12:38 AM SiNan Liu <liusinan1...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Schema.Type and org.apache.pulsar.common.schema.SchemaType value > > > > should > > > > > > > be the same. > > > > > > > 2.These changes do not affect produce and are only affect consumer > > > > > > > subscribe behavior. > > > > > > > 3.backward compatibility: > > > > > > > (1)In org.apache.pulsar.broker.service.ServerCnx#handleSubscribe. > > > > > > > if (schema != null && schema.getType() != > > > > > > > SchemaType.AUTO_CONSUME) { > > > > > > > return topic.addSchemaIfIdleOrCheckCompatible(schema) > > > > > > > .thenCompose(v -> topic.subscribe(option)); > > > > > > > } else { > > > > > > > return topic.subscribe(option); > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > For the older pulsar client, the schema is null if AUTO_CONSUME > > > > consumer > > > > > > > subscribe to the Topic. > > > > > > > For the new pulsar client, if AUTO_CONSUME consumer subscribe the > > > > Topic, > > > > > > > then schema is not null and schema.getType() = > > > > SchemaType.AUTO_CONSUME. > > > > > > > Both new and old pulsar clients consume the topic, will return > > > > > > > topic. > > > > > > > subscribe(option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)In org.apache.pulsar.broker.service.persistent.PersistentTopic > > > > > > > #addSchemaIfIdleOrCheckCompatible. > > > > > > > @Override > > > > > > > public CompletableFuture<Void> > > > > addSchemaIfIdleOrCheckCompatible(SchemaData > > > > > > > schema) { > > > > > > > return hasSchema().thenCompose((hasSchema) -> { > > > > > > > int numActiveConsumersWithoutAutoSchema = > > > > subscriptions.values().stream() > > > > > > > .mapToInt(subscription -> subscription.getConsumers().stream() > > > > > > > .filter(consumer -> consumer.getSchemaType() != > > > > SchemaType.AUTO_CONSUME) > > > > > > > .toList().size()) > > > > > > > .sum(); > > > > > > > if (hasSchema > > > > > > > || (!producers.isEmpty()) > > > > > > > || (numActiveConsumersWithoutAutoSchema != 0) > > > > > > > || (ledger.getTotalSize() != 0)) { > > > > > > > return checkSchemaCompatibleForConsumer(schema); > > > > > > > } else { > > > > > > > return addSchema(schema).thenCompose(schemaVersion -> > > > > > > > CompletableFuture.completedFuture(null)); > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > }); > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > Only in one case will there be a bug. > > > > > > > First, the old pulsar client consume the empty topic, the consumer > > > > schema > > > > > > > is AUTO_CONSUME, and then whether the new or old pulsar client > > > > consume(i.e. > > > > > > > schema is AVRO) the topic. > > > > > > > The broker will return the error message as > > > > IncompatibleSchemaException (" > > > > > > > Topic does not have a schema to check "). The bug at issue17354 is > > > > not > > > > > > > fixed in this case. > > > > > > > All the other cases will be normal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2022年12月31日周六 20:23写道: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defining `AutoConsume` as -3 is somehow strange. Could you > > > > > > > > clarify > > > > if > > > > > > > > backward compatibility is guaranteed? i.e. if the new Pulsar > > > > > > > > client > > > > > > > > uploaded the AUTO_CONSUME schema to the broker, can the old > > > > > > > > Pulsar > > > > > > > > clients produce or consume the same topic anymore? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Yunze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:32 PM 思楠刘 <liusinan1...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a PIP to discuss: > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/19113. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Sinan > > > > > > > > > > > >