Thanks for your input!

I update the prototype as described in the proposal:
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/17062

Will initialize a vote for PIP-200 soon.

Best,
tison.


Zhengxin Cai <cai19930...@gmail.com> 于2022年8月26日周五 08:36写道:

> +1 on this,
> I think helm chart should not be a big issue, we can just upgrade the chart
> and provide necessary doc on how to upgrade.
>
> tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年8月24日周三 16:41写道:
>
> > Hi Enrico and Qiang,
> >
> > The issue description was updated. Picked here:
> >
> > > upgrade and downgrade doc
> >
> > This change should not affect those who use Pulsar with the entry point
> > script, but it changes the layout of the release artifact.
> >
> > I'm going to write a release note about this change and also post it on
> the
> > Pulsar SQL overview page as a caveat. Draft here:
> >
> > # Caveat
> >
> > If you're upgrading Pulsar SQL from 2.11 or early, you should copy the
> > related configs from `conf/presto` to `trino/conf`, and `lib/presto` to
> > `trino`. If you're downgrading Pulsar SQL to 2.11 or early from 2.12, do
> > verse visa.
> >
> > > Pulsar Helm Chart
> >
> > From what I understand, Pulsar Helm Chart is a wrapper of pulsar-all
> docker
> > image. I don't find any reference to presto/trino/sql effectively in the
> > codebase, so I think it's currently transparent for its users and the
> > caveat under Pulsar SQL overview page should be enough.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年8月17日周三 19:40写道:
> >
> > > Thanks for your feedback!
> > >
> > > 1. According to the upgrade and downgrade doc, I think the minimum
> > > requirements are a release note. Describe the layout change and how
> users
> > > should move the folder. I'll elaborate on the issue and notify you
> here.
> > > 2. It seems Pulsar Helm Chart support 2.9.3 now. I'll investigate how
> it
> > > can be relevant in days. If someone who maintains the Chart can provide
> > > some input, it will help!
> > > 3. "There are 3 issues". It's a description about the
> > > background/motivation, while we handle the first issue in this PIP.
> > > Although, subtasks can be divided into packaging changes, possible doc
> > > changes, and possible Chart changes.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > >
> > > Qiang Huang <qiang.huang1...@gmail.com> 于2022年8月17日周三 19:25写道:
> > >
> > >> Looks good. I have two points:
> > >> 1. It is necessary to supplement the upgrade and downgrade
> documentation
> > >> in
> > >> Pulsar.
> > >> 2. There are 3 issues mentioned in the PIP, should we split it into 3
> > >> small
> > >> issues?
> > >>
> > >> Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> 于2022年8月17日周三 17:30写道:
> > >>
> > >> > I generally agree with the PIP
> > >> >
> > >> > Can you please explain the interactions with the Pulsar Helm chart ?
> > >> > also we have to draw a migration path, because users that will
> upgrade
> > >> > Pulsar will have to move the configuration files in another location
> > >> >
> > >> > Enrico
> > >> >
> > >> > Il giorno mer 17 ago 2022 alle ore 11:15 tison <
> wander4...@gmail.com>
> > >> > ha scritto:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hello,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > This is a PIP to package the Pulsar Trino distro and config in a
> > >> > dedicated
> > >> > > folder.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Link: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/17137
> > >> > > Prototype: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/17062
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Below you can find the proposal (I will amend the GH issue while
> we
> > >> > discuss
> > >> > > it).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best,
> > >> > > tison.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Motivation
> > >> > > ========
> > >> > >
> > >> > > After https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/16683 merged, we
> > upgrade
> > >> > > PrestoSQL dependency in Pulsar SQL to the first several Trino
> > >> version. To
> > >> > > handle the name change cases and gradually refactor Pulsar SQL as
> a
> > >> > > self-contained module so that we can move it into a standalone
> > >> > repository,
> > >> > > I find that there're three major issues to resolve.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. Configs of Pulsar SQL go under the `conf/` folder and mix with
> > >> other
> > >> > > Pulsar configs.
> > >> > > 2. Pulsar Docker images (base and all) bundle Pulsar SQL.
> > >> > > 3. Integration tests of Pulsar SQL are tightly coupled with the
> main
> > >> repo
> > >> > > (test infra).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > This proposal is aimed at resolving the first issue to package
> > Pulsar
> > >> > Trino
> > >> > > distro and config in a dedicated folder; that is, to make it
> > >> > self-contained.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Goal
> > >> > > ====
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have already prepared a draft to perform the changes as
> > >> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/17062. Generally, we move
> the
> > >> > config
> > >> > > files under `PRESTO_HOME` and correspondingly update scripts.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In this way, all Trino distro artifacts are under the same home
> > path,
> > >> so
> > >> > > that we can later move it out as a whole.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > This change should not affect those who use Pulsar with the entry
> > >> point
> > >> > > script, but it changes the layout of the release artifact, so I'd
> > >> prefer
> > >> > to
> > >> > > perform a PIP process.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Implementation
> > >> > > ============
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It's straightforward to inline in the "Goal" section.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However, the name of the folder (`presto` or `trino`) and the
> level
> > of
> > >> > the
> > >> > > folder (`lib/presto/` or `trino/`) is open to discussion. I think
> > both
> > >> > are
> > >> > > fine and will try `trino/` first.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > To minimize unnecessary changes, I tend to keep the modules name
> > >> > > `pulsar-presto-xxx` as is.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Alternatives
> > >> > > =========
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I don't make a completed proposal to resolve all three issues
> listed
> > >> > above.
> > >> > > Because I'm still unfamiliar with the latter two topics yet and
> I'd
> > >> > prefer
> > >> > > to implement these improvements one by one since they're naturally
> > >> > > independent. If I try to make a completed proposal at once, it's
> > >> highly
> > >> > > possible I give up halfway.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Anything else?
> > >> > > ===========
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Previous discussion:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [DISCUSS] Move Pulsar SQL to a separated repository?
> > >> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/mflm0pb5235jjk80vol0vs7v0hvowkq8
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> BR,
> > >> Qiang Huang
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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