+1, This feature is very useful for users. Best, Mattison
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 at 18:11, Nicolò Boschi <boschi1...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1, good work, I think it's very valuable for users for monitoring > purposes. > > Nicolò Boschi > > > Il giorno lun 18 lug 2022 alle ore 11:47 Lothruin Mirwen < > lothruin.mir...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > This should be really helpful to monitor real backlog in production > > environments. > > Currently we are struck at "entries" count but doesn't describe well how > > much real message lag we have. > > > > +1 excited to see it work on our production environments > > > > Diego Salvi > > > > Il giorno lun 18 lug 2022 alle ore 11:18 Enrico Olivelli < > > eolive...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > > > Any comments ? > > > > > > FYI I have updated the PIP after addressing some feedback on the PR: > > > - no more need to create a dummy Dispatcher > > > - now we are reading entries in batches > > > > > > I would like to see this in 2.11 please > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > Il giorno gio 14 lug 2022 alle ore 09:34 Enrico Olivelli > > > <eolive...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > this is a PIP to implement a tool to analyse the subscription backlog > > > > > > > > Link: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/16597 > > > > Prototype: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/16545 > > > > > > > > Below you can find the proposal (I will amend the GH issue while we > > > > discuss, as usual) > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > Motivation > > > > > > > > Currently there is no way to have a accurate backlog for a > > subscription: > > > > > > > > you have only the number of "entries", not messages > > > > server side filters (PIP-105) may filter out some messages > > > > > > > > Having the number of entries is sometimes not enough because with > > > > batch messages the amount of work on the Consumers is proportional to > > > > the number of messages, that may vary from entry to entry. > > > > > > > > Goal > > > > > > > > The idea of this patch is to provide a dedicate API (REST, > > > > pulsar-admin, and Java PulsarAdmin) to "analise" a subscription and > > > > provide detailed information about that is expected to be delivered > to > > > > Consumers. > > > > > > > > The operation will be quite expensive because we have to load the > > > > messages from storage and pass them to the filters, but due to the > > > > dynamic nature of Pulsar subscriptions there is no other way to have > > > > this value. > > > > > > > > One good strategy to do monitoring/alerting is to setup alerts on the > > > > usual "stats" and use this new API to inspect the subscription > deeper, > > > > typically be issuing a manual command. > > > > > > > > API Changes > > > > > > > > internal ManagedCursor API: > > > > > > > > CompletableFuture<ScanOutcome> scan(Predicate<Entry> condition, long > > > > maxEntries, long timeOutMs); > > > > > > > > This method scans the Cursor from the lastMarkDelete position to the > > > tail. > > > > There is a time limit and a maxEntries limit, these are needed in > > > > order to prevent huge (and useless) scans. > > > > The Predicate can stop the scan, if it doesn't want to continue the > > > > processing for some reasons. > > > > > > > > New REST API: > > > > > > > > @GET > > > > > > > > > > @Path("/{tenant}/{namespace}/{topic}/subscription/{subName}/analiseBacklog") > > > > @ApiOperation(value = "Analyse a subscription, by scanning all > the > > > > unprocessed messages") > > > > > > > > public void analiseSubscriptionBacklog( > > > > @Suspended final AsyncResponse asyncResponse, > > > > @ApiParam(value = "Specify the tenant", required = true) > > > > @PathParam("tenant") String tenant, > > > > @ApiParam(value = "Specify the namespace", required = > true) > > > > @PathParam("namespace") String namespace, > > > > @ApiParam(value = "Specify topic name", required = true) > > > > @PathParam("topic") @Encoded String encodedTopic, > > > > @ApiParam(value = "Subscription", required = true) > > > > @PathParam("subName") String encodedSubName, > > > > @ApiParam(value = "Is authentication required to perform > > > > this operation") > > > > @QueryParam("authoritative") @DefaultValue("false") > > > > boolean authoritative) { > > > > > > > > API response model: > > > > > > > > public class AnaliseSubscriptionBacklogResult { > > > > private long entries; > > > > private long messages; > > > > > > > > private long filterRejectedEntries; > > > > private long filterAcceptedEntries; > > > > private long filterRescheduledEntries; > > > > > > > > private long filterRejectedMessages; > > > > private long filterAcceptedMessages; > > > > private long filterRescheduledMessages; > > > > > > > > private boolean aborted; > > > > > > > > The response contains "aborted=true" is the request has been aborted > > > > by some internal limitations, like a timeout or the scan hit the max > > > > number of entries. > > > > We are not going to provide more details about the reason of the > stop. > > > > It will make the API too detailed and harder to maintain. Also, in > the > > > > logs of the broker you will find the details. > > > > > > > > New PulsarAdmin API: > > > > > > > > /** > > > > * Analise subscription backlog. > > > > * This is a potentially expensive operation, as it requires > > > > * to read the messages from storage. > > > > * This function takes into consideration batch messages > > > > * and also Subscription filters. > > > > * @param topic > > > > * Topic name > > > > * @param subscriptionName > > > > * the subscription > > > > * @return an accurate analysis of the backlog > > > > * @throws PulsarAdminException > > > > * Unexpected error > > > > */ > > > > AnaliseSubscriptionBacklogResult > analiseSubscriptionBacklog(String > > > > topic, String subscriptionName) > > > > throws PulsarAdminException; > > > > > > > > /** > > > > * Analise subscription backlog. > > > > * This is a potentially expensive operation, as it requires > > > > * to read the messages from storage. > > > > * This function takes into consideration batch messages > > > > * and also Subscription filters. > > > > * @param topic > > > > * Topic name > > > > * @param subscriptionName > > > > * the subscription > > > > * @return an accurate analysis of the backlog > > > > * @throws PulsarAdminException > > > > * Unexpected error > > > > */ > > > > CompletableFuture<AnaliseSubscriptionBacklogResult> > > > > analiseSubscriptionBacklogAsync(String topic, > > > > > > > > String subscriptionName); > > > > > > > > A pulsar-admin command will be added as well as usual. > > > > > > > > New configuration entries in broker.conf: > > > > > > > > @FieldContext( > > > > category = CATEGORY_POLICIES, > > > > doc = "Maximum time to spend while scanning a subscription > to > > > > calculate the accurate backlog" > > > > ) > > > > private long subscriptionBacklogScanMaxTimeMs = 1000 * 60 * 2L; > > > > @FieldContext( > > > > category = CATEGORY_POLICIES, > > > > doc = "Maximum number of entries to process while scanning a > > > > subscription to calculate the accurate backlog" > > > > ) > > > > private long subscriptionBacklogScanMaxEntries = 10_000; > > > > > > > > Implementation > > > > > > > > The implementation is pretty straightforward: > > > > > > > > add a new API in ManagedCursor to do the Scan > > > > add the REST API > > > > implement in PersistentSubscription a analiseBacklog method that does > > > the scan > > > > > > > > The the PersistentSubscription runs the scan: > > > > > > > > it applies the filters if they are present > > > > it considers individuallyDeletedMessages > > > > > > > > Non trivial problem regarding the Dispatcher: > > > > The Filters are loaded by a AbstractBaseDispatcher, but > > > > PersistentSubscription starts a Dispatcher only when the first > > > > consumer is connecter. > > > > This happens because the Subscription itself doesn't have a type > > > > (Failover,Exclusive,Shared...) and KeySharedMetadata, all this stuff > > > > is decided by the first consumer coming (after the load of the topic, > > > > so the subscription type may change after a topic unload). > > > > This PIP won't fix this "problem", and so in case of missing > > > > Dispatcher we are going to use a ephemeral Dispatcher without Type. > > > > Maybe in the future it will be better to persist the Subscription > Type > > > > and other metadata, this way we can create the Dispatcher while > > > > instantiating the Subscription. > > > > > > > > Reject Alternatives > > > > > > > > We could store somehow some counter about the number of logical > > > > messages during writes. But that does not work for a few reasons: > > > > > > > > you cannot know which subscriptions will be created in a topic > > > > subscription can be created from the past (Earliest) > > > > subscription filters may change over time: they are usually > configured > > > > using Subscription Properties, and those properties are dynamic > > > > doing computations on the write path (like running filters) kills > > > > latency and thoughtput > > > > > > > > Use a client to clone the subscription and consume data. > > > > This doesn't work because you have to transfer the data to the > client, > > > > and this is possibly a huge amount of work and a waste of resources. > > > > > >
