For old version that doesn't support `start_message_id_inclusive`, should I
fix the client side?

You mean that call the hasMessageAvailable method in new consumer and
reader?


PengHui Li <peng...@apache.org> 于2022年4月11日周一 09:10写道:

> Hi zixuan,
>
> The proposal looks good,
> regarding the compatibility, should we check the protocol version at the
> client side?
> The old version version doesn't support `start_message_id_inclusive` which
> means the
> client side still needs to do the seek operation while requesting an old
> version broker.
>
> > Notice that the users still can read the message of the latest position
> by
> call `reader.hasMessageAvailable()` before `reader.readNext()`, but this
> call can be ignored when using the new client and the new broker.
>
> For this part, I don't think it should be a notice, We do not deliberately
> modify current behavior,
> just fix the problem if users don't want to call
> reader.hasMessageAvailable() because they know
> topic has at least one message. Add notice here, it looks like after this
> proposal, we are not
> suggesting to use hasMessageAvailable() any more.
>
> Penghui
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:54 PM Zixuan Liu <node...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Pulsar community,
> >
> > Start voting for PIP-150: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/14883
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zixuan
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Discussion thread:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/n3drk2g2oy766qnbtx17knvtssy3tdyl
> >
> > ## Motivation
> >
> > Currently, the Pulsar-client supports setting the `startMessageId` for
> > Consumer and Reader, and also supports reading the message of
> > `startMessageId` position.
> >
> > Assume, we have two message id 1,2,3,4 in the topic:
> >
> > - When we set `earliest` as `startMessageId` value, we can get the
> message
> > of message id 1
> > - When we set `latest` as `startMessageId` value, we can't get any
> message
> >
> >  Sometimes we want to read the message id 4 for the first time, we have
> > only one approach in client:
> >
> > ```
> >  Reader<byte[]> reader = pulsarClient.newReader()
> >                 .topic(topicName)
> >                 .subscriptionName(subscriptionName)
> >                 .startMessageId(MessageId.latest)
> >                 .startMessageIdInclusive()
> >                 .create();
> >
> > reader.hasMessageAvailable();
> > Message<byte[]> msg = reader.readNext(1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
> > ```
> >
> > Call `reader.hasMessageAvailable()` before `reader.readNext()` can get
> the
> > correct message id 4, which include seek action when the
> > `startMessageIdInclusive()` is enabled.
> >
> > This approach is confusing.   If we do this on the broker side, it will
> > make things easier.
> >
> > ## Goal
> >
> > This PIP proposes support for reading the message of `startMessageId`
> > position on the broker side:
> >
> > - Add to `Consumer`
> > - Add to `Reader`
> >
> > ## Implementation
> >
> > ### Protocol
> >
> > Add a `start_message_id_inclusive` field to `CommandSubscribe` for
> > determine whether to read the message of `startMessageId` position:
> >
> > ```
> > message CommandSubscribe {
> >     // some fields
> >
> >     // If specified, the subscription will read the message from the
> start
> > message id position.
> >     optional bool start_message_id_inclusive = 20 [default = false];
> > }
> > ```
> >
> > ### ManagedCursorImpl
> >
> > Add a check in
> >
> >
> `org.apache.bookkeeper.mledger.impl.ManagedCursorImpl#initializeCursorPosition`.
> >
> >
> > We only need to care that the `startMessageId` is `MessageId.latest` and
> > the`start_message_id_inclusive` is `true`, we get latest position from
> > ledger as `readPosition` value, otherwise if
> > the`start_message_id_inclusive` is `false`,  get next position of the
> > latest position as `readPosition` value.
> >
> > ### Client
> >
> > The `Consumer` and `Reader` support setting the
> > `start_message_id_inclusive` value to `CommandSubscribe` command.
> >
> > ### Compatibility
> >
> > This feature can have both backward and forward compatibility, this means
> > the users can use any client to request any broker.
> >
> > Notice that the users still can read the message of the latest position
> by
> > call `reader.hasMessageAvailable()` before `reader.readNext()`, but this
> > call can be ignored when using the new client and the new broker.
> >
>

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