+1 I think this is a good idea.

The tradeoff here is that testing against a standalone "cluster" is
even more different than testing against a distributed Pulsar cluster.
I think this is fine, but if we accept this PIP, I think we should
update our guidance on the Wiki, which currently recommends running
release candidate validation tests against a standalone cluster [0].

- Michael

[0] 
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Release-Candidate-Validation#validate-pubsub-and-java-functions


On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:09 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> @Haiting
> Pulsar Standalone is usually used for local development, I am not sure you
> need a migration tool.
> You can still keep the configuration to use previously (standalone.conf)
>
> Enrico
>
> Il giorno mer 15 dic 2021 alle ore 10:56 Haiting Jiang <
> jianghait...@apache.org> ha scritto:
>
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > Out of the scope of this PIP, a follow up data migration tool could be
> > added to help migration from old settings without data loss.
> >
> > ---
> > Haiting
> >
> > On 2021/12/15 01:04:21 Hang Chen wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Hang
> > >
> > > PengHui Li <peng...@apache.org> 于2021年12月15日周三 07:52写道:
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Penghui
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:18 AM Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/13302
> > > > >
> > > > > Copying here for quoting convenience
> > > > > ----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ## Motivation
> > > > >
> > > > > Pulsar standalone is the "Pulsar in a box" version of a Pulsar
> > cluster,
> > > > > where
> > > > > all the components are started within the context of a single JVM
> > process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Users are using the standalone as a way to get quickly started with
> > Pulsar
> > > > > or
> > > > > in all the cases where it makes sense to have a single node
> > deployment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now, the standalone is starting by default with many
> > components,
> > > > > several of
> > > > > which are quite complex, since they are designed to be deployed in a
> > > > > distributed
> > > > > fashion.
> > > > >
> > > > > ## Goal
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplify the components of Pulsar standalone to achieve:
> > > > >
> > > > >  1. Reduce complexity
> > > > >  2. Reduce startup time
> > > > >  3. Reduce memory and CPU footprint of running standalone
> > > > >
> > > > > ## Proposed changes
> > > > >
> > > > > The proposal here is to change some of the default implementations
> > that are
> > > > > used for the Pulsar standalone.
> > > > >
> > > > >  1. **Metadata Store implementation** -->
> > > > >       Change from ZooKeeper to RocksDB
> > > > >
> > > > >  2. **Pulsar functions package backend** -->
> > > > >       Change from using DistributedLog to using local filesystem,
> > storing
> > > > > the
> > > > >       jars directly in the data folder instead of uploading them
> > into BK.
> > > > >
> > > > >  3. **Pulsar functions state store implementation** -->
> > > > >       Change the state store to be backed by a MetadataStore based
> > backed,
> > > > >       with the RocksDB implementation.
> > > > >
> > > > >  4. **Table Service** -->
> > > > >       Do not start BK table service by default
> > > > >
> > > > > ## Compatibility considerations
> > > > >
> > > > > In order to avoid compatibility issues where users have existing
> > Pulsar
> > > > > standalone services that they want to upgrade without conflicts, we
> > will
> > > > > follow the principle of keeping the old defaults where there is
> > existing
> > > > > data on the disk.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will add a file, serving the purpose as a flag, in the
> > `data/standalone`
> > > > > directory, for example `new-2.10-defaults`.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the file is present, or if the data directory is completely
> > missing, we
> > > > > will adopt the new set of default configuration settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the file is not there, we will continue to use existing defaults
> > and we
> > > > > will
> > > > > not break the upgrade operation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matteo Merli
> > > > > <mme...@apache.org>
> > > > >
> > >
> >

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