Patrick, Thank you for sharing this! As said above, the meetings are just for providing channels for discussions. They are not used for making decisions. All decisions are made in the mailing list.
- Sijie On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:26 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone. I'm new to the Apache Pulsar community but have spent the past > ten years or so working in the Apache Cassandra community. I run the > contributor zoom calls as well as the Cassandra Kubernetes SIG. > > I thought I could share a couple of things we learned there. First, as you > have been talking about, timezones are brutal. There is no possible way to > accommodate everyone. We went the route of having two meetings for a while, > but what we found is that eventually, the second meeting in > chronological order would turn into a recap from the first meeting. We are > only doing one meeting that rotates timezones for now, but I think for 2021 > we'll look at alternating meeting times every other meeting. For example, > 1st of the month is EU friendly time. 15th of month APAC friendly time. > Would love to collaborate on how best to make this work because I think > this is a problem with a lot of projects. > > The second is maintaining communication and inclusivity in the Apache > community. Apache guidelines are very clear about the need for transparent > communication (https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/) In the Cassandra > project, we record every meeting and publish to YouTube. ( > https://www.youtube.com/c/PlanetCassandra) This channel is owned by > multiple members so it isn't exclusive to any one person or company. We are > also looking at creating written transcripts of each meeting to increase > inclusivity. There isn't a requirement to publish to YouTube but at a > minimum, detailed notes of every meeting should be published somewhere and > as usual. any decisions should be discussed and made on the dev@ mailing > list. Ultimately it's the responsibility of the PMC for the Pulsar project > to enforce these rules. I'm just adding this as a warning because I've seen > a few Apache projects go down the route of creating exclusive channels of > decision making and it doesn't end well. It's better to over-rotate on open > communication by default. > > Thanks and looking forward to becoming more involved in the Apache Pulsar > community! > > Patrick McFadin > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:38 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Tuesday 2nd February 4pm PST works for me as first meeting date. > > > > I am fine with having two meetings as well if this will help > participation. > > > > Regarding the YouTube recordings, I am afraid that this would scare > people > > that maybe would like to attend or tell their opinion but they don't feel > > good in being recorded and published on social. > > > > I would skip YouTube at least for the first times > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > Il Ven 29 Gen 2021, 20:27 Rui Fu <f...@rui.sh> ha scritto: > > > > > Agreed with @sijie’s proposal. Double events are more reasonable and > > > friendly, also +1 for the recordings @YouTube. Look forward to attend > the > > > community meeting, cheers. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Rui Fu > > > 在 2021年1月29日 +0800 PM4:53，Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com>，写道： > > > > That's a super great idea! Thank you for bringing this up! > > > > > > > > Given there are a lot of committers/contributors are from North > America > > > and > > > > Asia, I think we should pick up a better time that would be suitable > > for > > > > people from Asia (Japan and China). > > > > In the bookkeeper community, we used to run two events. One is to > cover > > > NA > > > > and Asia, and the other one is to cover NA and EU. > > > > > > > > I would suggest running biweekly meetings. > > > > > > > > - Tuesday 4 PM - 5 PM PST for NA and Asia > > > > - Thursday 8 AM - 9 AM PST for NA and EU > > > > > > > > All the events can be recorded and uploaded to Youtube. So people are > > > able > > > > to watch the recordings as well. > > > > > > > > If people are good with this proposal, I am happy to set up and > > > coordinate > > > > the meetings given I have run many meetings in the BookKeeper > community > > > > before. > > > > > > > > We can get started next Tuesday and formalize the process as we go. > > > Please > > > > vote for your idea. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sijie > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 12:05 AM Enrico Olivelli < > eolive...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > in the BookKeeper community we used to have "Community Meetings" in > > > order > > > > > to meet each other, discuss current works on the project, share > > > knowledge > > > > > about current problems. > > > > > > > > > > What about having Community meetings for Pulsar ? > > > > > I would be happy to organize and to host the first meeting. > > > > > > > > > > In Apache we keep the decisions and the discussions on mailing > lists, > > > so > > > > > these meetings would be only to share information and we are not > > going > > > to > > > > > make decisions. > > > > > > > > > > The Pulsar community is distributed all over the world, we have > > people > > > from > > > > > China, the US, Europe, it will be hard to find a good time for > > > everyone. > > > > > I suggest for the first meeting to meet at 8:30 PST > > > > > > > > > > For reference, this is the link to the "minutes" of the Community > > > Meetings > > > > > in BK, > > > > > Sijie and Matteo will remember those days > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BOOKKEEPER/Community+Meetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > >
