> I see there are dependencies on websockets, I would a prefer a simple
polling model of the http, also it's enable by default in pulsar.

I don't think we depend don pulsar websocket. All are http restful requests.

> For the ui the default persistence should be sqlite. Potentially packaged
by default.

Initially the default is sqlite. But sqlite doesn't work if there are a lot
of topic metrics.
We switched to MySQL as default for supporting production traffic. We can
switch default to PostgresSQL (as pulsar dashboard).

- Sijie

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:23 PM Ali Ahmed <alahmed...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see there are dependencies on websockets, I would a prefer a simple
> polling model of the http, also it's enable by default in pulsar.
>
> For the ui the default persistence should be sqlite. Potentially packaged
> by default.
>
> -Ali
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:47 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Il gio 29 ago 2019, 23:28 Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > That sounds an interesting idea!
> >
> >
> > Awesome
> >
> > Does HerdDB support JDBC? If so, it should
> > > be pretty straightforward to enable HerdDB.
> > >
> >
> > Sure, as far as I know, the JDBC client is the only client really used in
> > production.
> >
> > In a replicated environment it uses Zookeeper for metadata and service
> > discovery and Bookkeeper as WAL and if you have a pulsar cluster you
> > already have both of them (zk cluster an bookies)
> >
> > I will take a look to how Pulsar Manager   uses JDBC, maybe it will be
> very
> > easy.
> >
> > I will be back with news
> >
> >
> > Enrico
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sijie
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:08 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe you can try to use HerdDB (1), it is a replicated SQL database
> > that
> > > > can be run embedded in the JVM.
> > > > It is an SQL database that we developed in my company, in order to
> > > > explicitly replace MySQL.
> > > > It uses Bookkeeper to store the WAL and implement replication, but it
> > can
> > > > run in standalone mode or in memory (for tests/dev).
> > > >
> > > > I can help in setting up a demo.
> > > >
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > > (1) https://github.com/diennea/herddb
> > > >
> > > > Il gio 29 ago 2019, 16:59 Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > It doesn't require MySQL. You can use any JDBC supported databases.
> > > > > Initially we would use SQLite for development and change to MySQL
> for
> > > > more
> > > > > production-ready workloads.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this clarify your question.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Sijie
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 5:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see that MySQL is used. This would be a GPL dependency. Does
> the
> > > > Pulsar
> > > > > > Manager require MySQL, or can other Databases that are compliant
> > with
> > > > > > Apache Release Policy be used instead?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Aug 29, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Guangning E <eguangn...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have developed a new Pulsar web UI - pulsar-manager, aiming
> at
> > > > > > > supporting managing Pulsar clusters running in different
> > > environments
> > > > > > > (on-premise data centers, cloud, and so on). We’d like to
> > > contribute
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > project back to the Pulsar community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ## Motivation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently, Pulsar has a monitoring tool - [Pulsar Dashboard]( [
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://pulsar.apache.org/docs/en/administration-dashboard/](http://pulsar.apache.org/docs/en/administration-dashboard/)
> > > > > > > ).
> > > > > > > However, it only focuses on the simple monitoring of Pulsar -
> > > > > collecting
> > > > > > > and displaying information such as statistics of tenants,
> > > namespaces,
> > > > > > > topics, subscriptions, and so on. It doesn’t provide any
> > management
> > > > > > > operations such as add, delete and update tenants, namespaces,
> > > > topics,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > so on. When the scale of Pulsar cluster increases or the number
> > of
> > > > > > clusters
> > > > > > > grows, using `pulsar-admin` to manage Pulsar can not satisfy
> > > demands.
> > > > > > > Therefore, Pulsar needs a simple and easy-to-use management
> > console
> > > > for
> > > > > > > administrators.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pulsar Manager is a web-based GUI management and monitoring
> tool
> > > that
> > > > > > helps
> > > > > > > administrators and users manage and monitor tenants,
> namespaces,
> > > > > topics,
> > > > > > > subscriptions, brokers, clusters, and so on, and supports
> dynamic
> > > > > > > configuration of multiple environments.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ## Features
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pulsar manager provides two main features: management and
> > > monitoring.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ### Management
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Environment : (operations on the environment)
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / Update / List / Get
> > > > > > > 2. Cluster : (operations on clusters)
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / Update / List / Get
> > > > > > > 3. Brokers : (operations on brokers)
> > > > > > > Heartbeat / Unload
> > > > > > > 4. Tenants:
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / Update / List
> > > > > > > 5. Namespaces:
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / List
> > > > > > > Manage Namespace Policy
> > > > > > > Unload
> > > > > > > Operations on Namespace Bundles
> > > > > > > 6. Topics
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / List
> > > > > > > Unload / Terminate / Offload / Compact
> > > > > > > Topic Details
> > > > > > > 7. Subscriptions
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / List
> > > > > > > Reset Cursor / Skip / Clear backlog / Unsubscribe
> > > > > > > 8. Namespace Isolation Policies
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / Update / Get / List
> > > > > > > 9. Failure Domains
> > > > > > > Create / Delete / Update / Get / List
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ### Monitoring: (display *aggregated* stats at different
> levels)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Tenants
> > > > > > > List the total number of namespaces per tenant (both aggregated
> > and
> > > > > > > per-cluster basis)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. Namespaces
> > > > > > > List the total number of topics per namespace
> > > > > > > List the aggregated stats per namespace (such as rate-in,
> > rate-out,
> > > > > > > throughput-in, and throughput-out)
> > > > > > > List the distributions of namespace bundles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. Topics
> > > > > > > List the total number of partitions per topic
> > > > > > > List the aggregated stats per topic (such as rate-in, rate-out,
> > > > > > > throughput-in, and throughput-out)
> > > > > > > Detailed stats per topic partition
> > > > > > > Detailed stats of storage per topic partition
> > > > > > > Detailed stats of subscription per topic and per partition
> > > > > > > Detailed stats of producers
> > > > > > > Detailed stats of consumers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The detailed design proposal is in
> > > > > > > [
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C3meaHJzxX9wGDWQx-dC1b20yGeKsQtbwNiYuxZgOCE/edit#](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C3meaHJzxX9wGDWQx-dC1b20yGeKsQtbwNiYuxZgOCE/edit#)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looking forward to any feedback.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Guangning
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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