Thanks for doing this, Eric! It will boost performance a lot for tables
with reasonable size metadata.json files. We also automatically get an
in-memory cache since the Polaris entity is cached by default.
Agreed to defer any separated caching mechanism so that we don't have to
care about consistency issues.

Yufei


On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 7:57 AM Eric Maynard <eric.w.mayn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Some time ago I opened this PR <https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/433
> >
> which proposes to store/cache TableMetadata in the Polaris metastore,
> avoiding a trip to object storage in many cases. Based on this recent
> comment <
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/433#issuecomment-2904298967> I
> wanted to start up a mailing list thread for discussion about this feature
> as it might be a little hard to follow comment threads on what is now a
> very old PR.
>
> The proposal is, in a nutshell, to add a new internal property
> metadata-cache-content to IcebergTableLikeEntity's internal properties and
> to use that to store the exact contents of a table's metadata.json. The
> content can be updated whenever the metadata.json is read and can be
> configured to happen only for metadata.json files below some approximate
> size.
>
> I recently used the benchmark suite proposed in this PR
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris-tools/pull/21> to measure the impact of
> the change and found it to dramatically improve loadTable performance.
>
> Some things that have been brought up which are *not* in scope for this PR:
> 1. Directly loading the metadata.json content into a LoadTableResponse
> without building an in-memory TableMetadata object was previously in the PR
> but removed after this comment
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/433#issuecomment-2885074219> from
> Russell; it's planned as a followup.
> 2. Storing individual parts of table metadata.json in persistence, i.e.
> just the schema. We can do this if a use case arises, but being able to
> store whole table metadata is beneficial immediately.
> 3. A separate entity for table metadata. Because we add the table metadata
> to IcebergTableLikeEntity we immediately benefit from the entity cache and
> don't have to worry too much about consistency.
> 4. A separate cache for table metadata. Similar to the above, this would
> make handling consistency more complicated. Having a separate cache, maybe
> with its own size or TTL configurations, just for table metadata could be a
> good followup but it's not necessary to make things work.
>
> This is a feature that has the potential to deliver tremendous latency
> benefits and one that opens up several interesting possibilities for
> followup improvements.
>
> If you're interested in the feature, please check out the PR or join the
> discussion here. Thanks!
>
> --EM
>

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