If  we put nightlies in the same repo, we should be careful with the
"latest" tag.

I suppose users will expect "latest" to track only officially released
images in that case.

It might even be worth _not_ using the "latest" tag at all.

Cheers,
Dmitri.

On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 3:24 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> I'm not super convinced by a repository dedicated to nightly or snapshot.
>
> A nightly or a SNAPSHOT is a version/tag of an image. So, I would
> expect to have it in the same repository as the released images.
>
> For instance, you would have apache/polaris:x.y.z and
> apache/polaris:x.y.z-SNAPSHOT
>
> Some projects do that (for instance
> https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/gravitino/tags).
>
> I would propose to have apache/polaris and apache/polaris-admin-tool repos.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 8:43 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <di...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Using a different repo name for nightlies / unstable sounds good to me,
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dmitri.
> >
> > On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 12:19 PM Alex Dutra
> <alex.du...@dremio.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > To be honest my preference would be Option 4: a different image name
> > > for everything that is "nightly" or "unstable". For example,
> > > "apache/polaris-unstable" or "apache/polaris-admin-tool-nightly".
> > >
> > > My reasoning is simple: make it almost impossible for a user to
> > > accidentally deploy an unstable version of the server into production,
> > > by confusing an unstable tag with a production-ready one.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, I can also live with Option 3, especially if we use tags
> > > that are "scary" enough to dissuade people from using them in
> > > production.
> > >
> > > Option 1 would be really bad for DevOps workflows: for example, I
> > > think running Kubernetes Jobs to bootstrap or purge realms (or doing
> > > other administrative tasks) will become a common practice; but in this
> > > case, the tool must be available as a Docker image.
> > >
> > > Option 2 is also bad: users expect Docker binaries to contain the same
> > > "thing" regardless of tags, so it would be confusing to mix binaries
> > > for the server and the tool under the same image. Not to mention that
> > > mixing binaries would absolutely preclude the usage of the tag
> > > "latest" since we wouldn't know if "latest" contains the server or the
> > > tool.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 5:53 PM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Also +1 on option 3.
> > > >
> > > > Would also propose to push releases and snapshots to separate image
> > > > repositories.
> > > >
> > > > On 19.05.25 17:46, Dmitri Bourlatchkov wrote:
> > > > > Option 2 looks very confusing to me. While it can technically
> work, I
> > > think
> > > > > most people expect the repository name to reflect the nature of the
> > > binary,
> > > > > so apache/polaris would mean "server" by default.
> > > > >
> > > > > I prefer option 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also think we should have an image for the admin tool because it
> is
> > > > > required for bootstrapping.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the server is in k8s, it would be natural to run the admin tool
> in
> > > k8s
> > > > > too, hence it needs a docker image. By providing an official image
> we
> > > > > greatly simplify users' workflows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Dmitri.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:11 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi folks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Right now, as part of the release and nightly build, we plan to
> push
> > > > >> the Polaris server docker image (on
> > > > >> https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/polaris).
> > > > >> Concretely, it means we push Polaris server
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As part of RC3 release prep, I pushed
> > > > >> apache/polaris:0.10.0-beta-incubating-rc3 image (corresponding to
> > > > >> Polaris server).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The question is regarding the Polaris Admin Tool container image.
> We
> > > > >> have basically 3 options:
> > > > >> 1. We only push Polaris server image on DockerHub (no admin tool):
> > > > >> it's what I do in RC3 prep and also what I proposed in
> > > > >> https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/1593
> > > > >> 2. We push Polaris Admin Tool in apache/polaris using a tag format
> > > > >> (like apache/polaris:admin-tool-x.y.z)
> > > > >> 3. I create a dedicated repository apache/polaris-admin-tool
> where we
> > > > >> push only admin tool images
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Personally, I don't like (2), and I wonder if it makes sense to
> push
> > > > >> admin tool image. If yes, I would propose (3) and I will be happy
> to
> > > > >> create the corresponding Docker repository.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thoughts ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >> JB
> > > > >>
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Stupp
> > > > @snazy
> > > >
> > >
>

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