Thanks a lot for driving this, Rulin! Left some comments in the doc. I
think this is the right direction to make credential management more secure
and more flexible.

Yufei


On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 1:34 PM Rulin Xing <ru...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> As Polaris expands its support for external services, such as federated
> catalogs and cloud storage, it needs to securely access systems like AWS
> S3, AWS Glue, Azure Storage, and others. This external access requires
> Polaris to handle credentials correctly, whether they’re long-lived
> credentials in self-managed deployments or temporary credentials in
> multi-tenant SaaS setups.
>
> We've had several ongoing discussions about how credential handling should
> evolve, especially in light of the work around SigV4 Auth for catalog
> federation.
> * [PR#1191] Fix updating the storage config
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/1191>
> * [PR#1506] Spec: Add SigV4 Auth Support for Catalog Federation
> <https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/1506>
> * [Spec] Add SigV4 Auth Support for Catalog Federation
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread/rlbxvw0xmzvlfm7pdh97bs3xvq7o8lmy>
>
> To frame the problem and proposed solutions, I’ve drafted a design doc:
> Apache Polaris Creds Management Proposal
> <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MAW87DtyHWPPNIEkUCRVUKBGjhh5bPn0GbtV7fifm30/edit?usp=sharing
> >
>
> The proposal breaks the problem into four key areas:
> 1. How Polaris gets vendor-specific service identity and credentials
>     (e.g., from server config and service context registry)
> 2. How Polaris surfaces service identity info to users
>     (e.g., exposing userArn or consentUrl for trust policy setup)
> 3. How Polaris injects service-managed identity fields into catalog or
> storage configs
>     (e.g., using entity mutators at creation time)
> 4. How Polaris retrieves temporary credentials to access external services
>     (e.g., via STS, with caching support)
>
> The goal is to unify credential handling across storage and connection
> configs, support both SaaS and self-managed deployments, and cleanly
> separate user-provided config from Polaris-managed properties.
>
> Would love to hear your thoughts, feedback, and suggestions. Happy to
> refine based on feedback!
>
> Thanks,
> Rulin
>

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