Hi folks,

I created the https://github.com/apache/polaris-catalogs-migrator repository.

I will work with Ajantha to populate it.

Regards
JB

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 12:33 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> OK, let's move forward then
>
> I will prepare https://github.com/apache/polaris-catalogs-migrator
> repository as a transition phase.
>
> > I also support inviting Ajantha as a committer.
> That will be a separate discussion with PPMC.
>
> > Still really prefer a separate repository, at least for now. We can always 
> > merge later. It also makes the "migration to ASF" easier.
> >
> > The "Nessie Iceberg-catalog-migrator tool" has been built to support 
> > migrations from any catalog to any other catalog. This means, that the test 
> > matrix is quite complex and I expect it to become even more complex and 
> > time consuming. IMHO there's no need to "bother" Polaris "main CI" for 
> > every PR with catalog-migrator tests. I would also expect a different 
> > release cycle - no need to tie both together.
>
> Understood, let's use a specific repo for now.
>
> > Better use org.apache.polaris.catalogmigrator as the base group ID.
>
> Yes, that was the intent indeed.
>
> > This requires https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/785. I'd also prefer 
> > to keep the ITs against Nessie and add Polaris.
>
> The itests will probably evolve a lot depending of the new use of
> catalogs-migrator.
> The itests bring a bunch of dependencies (Nessie, Hive, ...). As we
> are talking about test dependencies, that's OK.
>
> >
> > We don't know yet how these (and other features) will look like and not how 
> > it'll be related to the donated tool.
> >
>
> I'm very enthusiastic about catalogs-migrator: I see a lot of potential :)
> For instance, the first "obvious" move is probably catalogs-migrator
> will evolve from a "standalone tool" to a library that we can use in
> Polaris server (federated catalog, etc).
>
> >
> > Please coordinate the migration from the source repo with me. We need to 
> > clean some things up on the projectnessie Github org side first.
> >
>
> Ack, I will ping you :)
>
> For the rest of the community, no objection to starting with
> https://github.com/apache/polaris-catalogs-migrator ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > On 20.02.25 09:57, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Hi Dmitri
> > >
> > > About "evolution plan", I see the catalog migrator tool evolving as a
> > > set of beans/providers that will be used in both CLI, and some server
> > > features (like federated catalogs or "foreign catalogs").
> > > We should not focus too much on catalog migrator as it is today but
> > > more how it will be tomorrow.
> > >
> > > That's why I'm more in favor of preparing the field and donating as a
> > > module in the Polaris repo.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 6:38 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <di...@apache.org> 
> > > wrote:
> > >> +1 to accept the catalog migrator tool.
> > >>
> > >> I support inviting Ajantha as a committer.
> > >>
> > >> As to the source location, I tend to think that a separate repo makes 
> > >> sense
> > >> with the current state of the code, but I also agree that the overhead of
> > >> that may be too much, given that the codebase is small. I'm fine with
> > >> either a separate repo or a new module in the current Polaris repo.
> > >>
> > >> What is the general plan for the evolution of the migrator tool? Are we
> > >> talking about integrating it into Polaris Servers or will it remain a
> > >> standalone tool as it is now?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Dmitri.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:39 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi folks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Let me try to sum-up this topic.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Catalog Migration landing
> > >>> It seems we have a preference to land catalog-migrator as a module on
> > >>> the main polaris repo.
> > >>> Robert expressed comments about CI, release cycle, dependencies.
> > >>>
> > >>> My view on that is that the purpose of the catalog-migrator is to
> > >>> evolve, and could become a key component for features like federated
> > >>> catalogs.
> > >>> Due to that, I think we can consider catalog-migrator as a module,
> > >>> integrated in the Polaris CLI, or in the Polaris server,
> > >>>
> > >>> Robert, does it work for you ?
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. Code/PR prep
> > >>> I propose to work directly with Ajantha (main contributor of the
> > >>> catalog-migrator) to prepare the code heading to a PR. We need:
> > >>> - integrate in Polaris repo and gradle
> > >>> - rename all packages to use org.apache.polaris
> > >>> - add ASF header in all files
> > >>> - refactore cli to use polaris style/naming
> > >>> - refactore intTest to use Polaris instead of Nessie
> > >>> - check the dependencies in the cli uber jar (hadoop, hive, ...) and
> > >>> cleanup LICENSE/NOTICE there
> > >>> - update README and cleanup other files
> > >>> It should be pretty fast and we should be able to create a PR for
> > >>> review/donation.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>> JB
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 7:45 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As discussed with some of you, we would like to propose donating the
> > >>>> Nessie Iceberg Catalog migrator tool
> > >>>> (https://github.com/projectnessie/iceberg-catalog-migrator) to Apache
> > >>>> Polaris.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A SGA has been already signed in case we accept the donation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In terms of donation, I propose the following:
> > >>>> - the iceberg-catalog-migration can land in a separate Polaris repo
> > >>>> (as it is today for Nessie):
> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/polaris-catalog-migration or land as a
> > >>>> module in polaris repo directly
> > >>>> - we need to prepare the donation by changing the package names, etc
> > >>>> - I would suggest to consider inviting one of the main contributor of
> > >>>> Catalog Migrator (ajantha-bhat) as Polaris committer
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WDYT ? Do we accept the iceberg-catalog-migrator tool in Polaris (we
> > >>>> can do a formal vote if we don't have obvious consensus) ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards
> > >>>> JB
> >
> > --
> > Robert Stupp
> > @snazy
> >

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