ASF projects must store source and source releases on ASF controlled properties. A significant amount of work has been done in the last decade to connect Gitbox with GitHub.
If anyone personally has trouble with Microsoft’s owning GitHub they can use the gitbox mirrors. 14 years ago we had significant discussions around trusting Microsoft. Let’s not go there again. If someone wants to volunteer to make CodeBerg or Gitlab or whatever work with the ASF you are looking at a major effort. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2022, at 5:41 AM, Yegor Kozlov <yegor.koz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > GitHub is cool and personally, I much prefer GitHub PRs to Bugzilla. > There are two questions though: > > 1. Github is Apache-friendly, but it is not owned by ASF. For whatever > reasons they can change their policy, access, etc. and we won't have > control over it. It's hypothetical, but who knows? > > 2. What will happen to the mail list archives with links to Bugzilla ? > Will it possible to redirect Bugzilla urls to the migrated GitHub Issues? > > Regards, > Yegor > >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 3:21 PM Peter Keller <pkel...@globalphasing.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> When considering a move like this, you might like to also consider >> alternatives to GitHub. I am not going to argue strongly for one service >> over another, but just note that there is continuing sensitivity for >> some over Microsoft's policies with respect to GitHub. The Software >> Freedom Conservancy recently suggested CodeBerg and SourceHut as >> alternatives: see https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/ >> >> Regards, >> >> Peter. >> >>> On 18/08/2022 12:31, PJ Fanning wrote: >>> Thanks Vladimir for bringing this up. I think it would be a good idea to >> have a discussion on this list before anyone dedicates too much effort. >>> >>> My own opinion is that it would be great to get off bugzilla. I see the >> merit in using Github instead of Jira - because Github is an integrated >> environment supporting Issues, Pull Requests and Continuous Integration. >>> >>> I would argue that maybe we could consider also moving to Git (away from >> Subversion). I have a big preference for Pull Requests over patch files >> being attached to Bugzilla. These patch files get stale very quickly while >> Git/Github provides good tooling for rebasing or merging the latest >> trunk/main branch changes into PRs. >>> >>> One of the requirements of efforts OSSF Scorecard [1] and SLSA [2] is >> that code commits are peer reviewed and PRs are a good way to do this. We >> probably want to get away from having ASF committers committing code >> directly to svn or git trunk/main branch. >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/ossf/scorecard >>> [2] https://slsa.dev/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday 18 August 2022 at 10:48:18 IST, Vladimir Sitnikov < >> sitnikov.vladi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Just in case, I can prepare a throwaway repository with migrated >>> issues/attachments for POI. >>> I would need an export from Bugzilla database for POI issues. >>> You could ask it from INFRA like in >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23475. >>> >>>> Do you have examples of successful transition from Bugzilla to GitHub >>>> issues for Apache projects? >>> Well, there are only a few active Apache projects that still use >> Bugzilla. >>> Many migrated to JIRA some time ago. >>> >>> Apache Lucene migrates from JIRA to GitHub Issues right now: >>> * https://github.com/apache/lucene/issues/993 >>> >>> Apache Airflow moved from JIRA to GitHub several years ago: >>> * https://lists.apache.org/thread/g4sc91y585ypc7tgphlhvxt3v8nqsg5d >>> * See https://github.com/apache/airflow/releases >>> * See https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues >>> >>> --- >>> >>> LLVM project migrated 50'000+ issues from Bugzilla to GitHub in Nov 2021: >>> * Here's the result: https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues >>> * https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/52603 >>> * https://github.com/llvm/llvm-iwg/issues/56 >>> >>> Coq project migrated 5000 issues from Bugzilla to GitHub: >>> * https://www.theozimmermann.net/2017/10/bugzilla-to-github/ >>> >>> Spring project migrated from JIRA to GitHub in 2019: >>> * >>> >> https://spring.io/blog/2019/01/15/spring-framework-s-migration-from-jira-to-github-issues >>> >>> Sping Data project migrated from JIRA to GitHub in 2021: >>> * >>> >> https://spring.io/blog/2021/01/07/spring-data-s-migration-from-jira-to-github-issues >>> >>> >>> Vladimir >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org