+1

mountpoint-s3 sounds promising.

s3fs-fuse has lower performance than Goofys but might have the lowest
friction as a replacement.

-Siyao

On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 11:02 AM Abhishek Pal <pal.abhishek03012...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 on looking for a replacement since goofys is not being maintained.
> JuiceFS seems to introduce the problem of having to maintain an extra
> component for metadata which might come back to bite us, unless we let
> users setup and manage it by themselves.
>
> Maybe understanding what POSIX operations we absolutely want would be a
> good first step since mountpoint-s3 seems like a good alternative
> (considering the performance hit that might be seen with s3fs-fuse)
>
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 at 20:22, Ethan Rose <er...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1 for finding a goofys replacement. All of s3fs-fuse, mountpoint-s3, and
> > juicefs are probably worth testing since they seem to have different use
> > cases. mountpoint-s3 and s3fs are most similar to goofys in that the
> > namespace exposed matches what is stored in Ozone but some posix
> operations
> > are not supported. My understanding is that s3fs-fuse is more posix than
> > mountpoint-s3 at the cost of performance. Juicefs is fully posix but the
> > tradeoff is it stores metadata in a separate DB, so data written through
> > juicefs is not usable with just core Ozone.
> >
> > Ethan
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 5:23 AM Sammi Chen <sammic...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1, goofys is not stable after hours of running, especially in the
> > > continuous file write case.
> > > We'd better benchmarking these new candidates.
> > >
> > > BTW, I have heard of one JuiceFS + Ozone case, which seems running
> well.
> > >
> > > Sammi
> > >
> > > On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 at 15:29, Tsz-Wo Nicholas Sze <szets...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1  If goofys is unmaintained, we should find a replacement.
> > > >
> > > > Tsz-Wo
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 11:46 AM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >    1. HDDS-13356 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDDS-13356
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Goofys is a s3 fuse client. We rely on goofys to mount s3 locally
> and
> > > our
> > > > > ozone csi driver depends on goofys. Ozone-docker-runner includes
> > > goofys:
> > > > >
> > > > > However, goofys looks unmaintained now. No new releases in 4 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the meantime, there are better S3 fuse clients: for example,
> > > > > https://github.com/awslabs/mountpoint-s3, JuiceFS:
> > > > https://juicefs.com/en/
> > > > > s3
> > > > > fuse: https://github.com/s3fs-fuse/s3fs-fuse
> > > > >
> > > > > We should consider replacing goofys with either option. Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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