+1, Thanks for working on this feature.

Regards,
Sadanand

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 11:05 PM Rakesh Radhakrishnan <rake...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Thank you very much Yiqun and Marton for the feedback/useful comments.
> Please find my responses below.
>
> @Yiqun,
> As per the discussions, key deletion tasks have been implemented and the
> basic functionality of #listKeys works as expected and will be improving it
> further after merging the feature to master branch. Also, I've created a
> follow-up umbrella jira for further optimizations/improvement tasks.
>
> @Marton,
> [1] backward compatibility:
> No backward compatibility issues. S3 works well as the feature code sits
> behind the ozone.om.metadata.layout feature flag. Yes, same normalization
> behavior as before. Even with feature turned ON the normalization behaviour
> is the same, as the configuration "ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths" should
> be set to "true".
>
> [2] performance:
> When it is turned OFF then there is zero performance penalty because the
> existing functionality is not changed.
>
> With the feature flag turned OFF, master code will create intermediate
> directories during create. When it is turned ON the prefix code also does a
> similar approach during create. But, surely we will be focusing on the
> performance path post merge and improving it further.
>
> [3] documentation:
>
> Done. HDDS-5067. Thank you for the useful review comments.
>
> [4] security:
> As you have pointed out, everything works as earlier and there are no
> security implications because of the feature.
>
> [5] branch merging" checklist:
> I've updated the feature merge wiki page
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OZONE/FileSystem+Optimizations+-+HDDS-2939
> >.
> Thanks!
>
> [6] >>> I assume you planned to write "not blockers" in the first line
> I’m really sorry for the typo. Yes, "those are not blockers for the merge".
> All the in progress tasks have been implemented now.
>
> [7] >>> We can communicate that the feature is still in alpha phase
>
> Yes, we have covered the basic functionalities and #listKeys basic part
> works fine. We have added unit test cases and acceptance test cases to
> ensure stability and will be actively working to improve it further after
> the merge.
>
> The feature is disabled by default and won’t affect the stability of the
> master branch code.
>
>
>
> @Yiqun, @Marton
> Welcome suggestions/feedback. Thanks again for your time and your
> suggestions in shaping up this feature :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 2:05 PM Elek, Marton <e...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thank you very much to start the discussion Rakesh (and thanks to work
> > on this.)
> >
> > As this is something which can greatly improve the performance for the
> > FS use-cases, I am really exited.
> >
> > To make sure that we can guarantee the stability of the master branch, I
> > would recommend to fill the "branch merging" checklist:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OZONE/Merging+branches
> >
> > It would also provide additional information for all the contributors
> > who would prefer to test this feature before/during the vote.
> >
> > I am especially interested about:
> >
> >   1. backward compatibility: if I understand well, it's an optional
> > feature, so we can use s3 interface as before. But what about if we turn
> > this feature off, what can we expect from the s3 interface? Do we have
> > exactly the same normalization behavior as before or it's changed (I
> > have no problem with any way, as it can be turned on and off, but
> curious).
> >
> >   2. performance: this is already shared on the wiki page, and it's
> > awesome. One minor question: as far as I understood we have slightly
> > more overhead on the normal path (we should update / query multiple
> > rocksdb tables). I don't assume significant slowness there, but do we
> > have any measurements / numbers related to normal key creation vs master?
> >
> >   3. documentation: It would be great to have at least a basic level
> > documentation as part of 'hadoop-hdds/docs'. It would help us to further
> > test it in different environments.
> >
> >   4. security: I am interested if there are any security implication of
> > security checks are modified (I assume everything works as before, but
> > would be great to have confirmation / more information)
> >
> >
> >
> >  > *Ozone wiki page:*
> >
> >  >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OZONE/FileSystem+Optimizations+-+HDDS-2939
> >
> >
> > Thanks to share all these information. I found that some of the
> > sub-pages have confusing URLs:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OZONE/Configurations
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OZONE/Documents
> >
> > These pages are related to the branch but URL may suggest that these are
> > generic, Ozone related information.
> >
> > To fix this, I merged all the subpages to one page and moved the page
> > under the "Merging branch subsection" to have a consistent structure.
> >
> >
> >
> >  > There are few ongoing sub-tasks, IMHO they are blockers for merge.
> >
> >  > So, I feel this branch is ready to merge into master branch.
> >
> >
> > I am not sure if I understand these two sentences together, I assume you
> > planned to write "not blockers" in the first line (two lines seems to
> > have opposite meaning without this assumption).
> >
> > Let me add some related thoughts: There are two implications/risks of
> > merging something to the master:
> >
> >   1. Master can become more unstable
> >   2. Master will be delivered in the next release to the users
> >
> >
> > 1. seems to be fine, as it can be turned off, the risk is low, and we
> > can further decrease it with double-checking the stability based on the
> > mentioned checklist.
> >
> > Second is more interesting and I am really interested about your
> > opinions: if we have a new feature on master, it will be part of the new
> > release. If the feature is not functional-ready, yet (eg. list keys are
> > not working, yet), users who turn it on may be confused, as instead of a
> > new (alpha-) feature they may get an inconsistent / faulty (?) behavior.
> >
> > We can communicate that the feature is still in alpha phase, but we need
> > some level of functional completeness (IMHO).
> >
> > As an example: SCM-HA is merged with completeness of security
> > implementation, but SCM-HA raft ring for non-secure clusters can be
> > started to test and functional complete. And we clearly communicate that
> > security can not be used (yet).
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again to start this discussion, (and if any help is required for
> > the merge related to build / ci  / testing, I would be happy to help /
> > support it)
> >
> > Marton
> >
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