>From what I can tell above, one of the concerns might not be mentioned (or
I might have missed it) is migration cost for people who didn't have
experience on Github issue.  For people who only worked on JIRA in the
past, github issues might affect contributions from those people.

An assumption here though is that the cost for a person to learn a new way
to organize issues is non-trivial, and the number of people who only worked
on JIRA (or like to work on JIRA) is significant. This assumption could be
wrong.

-Rui



On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM Xiaoyu Yao <x...@cloudera.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Thanks all for the discussion. I have similar concerns around function
> completeness of Github issues. For example, are we going to miss JIRA's
> flexible query with filtering and comprehensive role/permission management,
> etc?
>
> This may not be a fair comparison as JIRA is targeted as a project
> management tool while Github is mainly for code repo with some issue
> tracking capabilities. I personally favor using tools to do the things that
> they are best at. Should we start a vote on this to decide the community
> choice?
>
> Xiaoyu
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Mukul Kumar Singh
> <mu...@cloudera.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for starting this thread Marton.
> >
> > I have worked with Github issues for other projects and find the
> > tracking rudimentary.
> >
> > Basically absence of good queries, saving older queries, lack of
> > dashboards are my biggest objections to this.
> >
> > I feel we can use some of the plugins with Github and Jira to provide
> > better integrations.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/11/20 9:40 pm, Arpit Agarwal wrote:
> > > Marton, you should start a vote thread to get official
> > consensus/objections.
> > >
> > >> I feel that everybody is interested to try it out
> > > Need more details here before proceeding.
> > >
> > > Personally I am not in favor but if there is broad consensus from the
> > community I will not object.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Arpit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Nov 9, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Elek, Marton <e...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A quick summary about this thread:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. Github seems to provide better user experience, and easier
> > contribution possibilities
> > >>
> > >> 2. If (!) we can live with the current structure of Github /
> > limitations.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Based on the discussion from the last sync, I feel that everybody is
> > interested to try it out, but I feel some concerns to do the decision
> right
> > now. Hard to imagine the final workflow after years of Jira-based Hadoop
> > development (even if the patch-handling already migrated)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> My proposal:
> > >>
> > >>   1. Start a two month trial period
> > >>
> > >>   2. Make the Jira creation for new PRs optional.
> > >>
> > >>   3. Start to use proper tags (priority, version) for pull requests.
> (I
> > can create an additional Github action to fill the defaults --> no big
> > change).
> > >>
> > >>   4. Enable Github issues in Ozone project and use it with a few new
> > issues. (Doesn't required to create all the new issues in Github, just a
> > few minor one, to test it, understand the limitations)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> After the two month trial period, we can make a decision, and:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Migrate old Jira issues to Github (if Github is prefered)
> > >>
> > >> 2. Migrate the experimental Github issues to Jira, and create Jira
> > issues for PRs when missing. (if Jira is preferred)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> +1: Use Github wiki for wiki pages.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What do you think?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Marton
> > >>
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