2021-02-23 03:15:07 UTC - kingledion: If that is deprecated, how does one 
generally use actions to push and pull data to a couchdb database? It seemed 
that you had to use that cloudant package…
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614050107010400?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 03:57:08 UTC - kingledion: I guess I’m a bit confused. Do openwhisk 
developers generally use separate actions like that cloudant package to connect 
to a database? Or do you access the database through a db driver that you setup 
in your application code?
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614052628011500?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 07:12:49 UTC - Jiang PengCheng: the openwhisk developers means 
developers who develop the openwhisk project? or who develop other projects 
using openwhisk? For the former one, they don't need a cloudant package to 
connect database
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614064369011700?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 13:38:35 UTC - kingledion: For developing other projects, I mean
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614087515012200?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 15:18:14 UTC - Rodric Rabbah: i mispoke - we didn’t archive the 
repo, we haven’t created new releases for it
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614093494012400?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 15:21:34 UTC - Rodric Rabbah: if you want to install the package, 
<https://github.com/apache/openwhisk-package-cloudant/blob/master/installCatalog.sh>
 this might work with some update

Are you self hosting openwhisk?

There are two parts to the cloudant package:
1. a trigger feed which is a microservice to create cloudant change feeds that 
invoke openwhisk actions
2. actions which wrap the cloudant sdk as actions so that it’s more convenient 
to use the cloudant apis particularly in sequences and compositions
Which of these two uses (there are distinct purposes) are you looking for?
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614093694012600?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 16:50:49 UTC - kingledion: I’m looking for #2. I’m building an 
e-commerce platform essentially, so user actions (placing orders, fulfilling 
orders, sent from a webapp) will be the triggers and cause db reads and writes.

I wrote a demo on IBM cloud functions and used the Cloudant actions there. So 
I’m trying to rebuild that and flesh it out with a build pipeline and all on a 
self-hosted openwhisk. But when I go to reproduce the cloudant actions it seems 
pretty difficult.

So I wasn’t sure if I should use the cloudant actions in my local environment, 
or if I should just use a couchdb driver within my action code to talk to the 
database.
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614099049012800?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 17:41:00 UTC - Rodric Rabbah: @Dave Grove do you know if there’s an 
ibm fork or equivalent of the cloudant repo that might be more up to date?
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614102060015200?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 17:58:58 UTC - Dave Grove: hi.  There is an IBM fork, but it also 
looks like there were some recent (2021) updates in the  Apache repo to get it 
onto NodeJS 10 actions.
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614103138015400?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 18:00:28 UTC - Dave Grove: its not obvious to me that we couldn’t 
revive the apache version with minimal effort.  mostly what is lacking is 
automated testing,  I seem to remember that was the main issue with being us 
confident that we could update it from NodeJS 6 and keep it active.   The 
documentation needs major rework to excise the IBM specific bits from the 
Apache repo, but that’s not a functional problem in the same way as the Node6 
was
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614103228015600?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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2021-02-23 18:06:29 UTC - Dave Grove: I think the IBM fork is mainly about IAM 
enablement.
https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1614103589015900?thread_ts=1614000536.008800&cid=C3TPCAQG1
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