John McDowall <jmcdow...@paloaltonetworks.com> wrote on 06/28/2016 10:54:31
AM:

> From: John McDowall <jmcdow...@paloaltonetworks.com>
> To: Ryan Moats/Omaha/IBM@IBMUS, Na Zhu <na...@cn.ibm.com>
> Cc: "dev@openvswitch.org" <dev@openvswitch.org>
> Date: 06/28/2016 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovs-dev] SFC-Summary: MultiTenant
>
> Ryan,
>
> Putting on my vendor hat for a minute or two….
>
> The way we have solved this is our VNF supports multiple interfaces
> (I.e. Multiple port-pairs) that can be partitioned into different
> networks. So a single VNF can act in multiple tenant. I believe most
> other vendors have similar solutions and perhaps other approaches.

That's a way to do it, and it doesn't require OVN to know any more
than what we are currently programming...

>
> How would you like a VNF to behave to support multi-tenancy?

I've been trying to work out how to be multi-tenant at the VNF port
level, and there's where I run into problems...

Ryan

>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> From: Ryan Moats <rmo...@us.ibm.com>
> Date: Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM
> To: Na Zhu <na...@cn.ibm.com>
> Cc: John McDowall <jmcdow...@paloaltonetworks.com>, "dev@openvswitch.org"
<
> dev@openvswitch.org>
> Subject: Re: [ovs-dev] SFC-Summary: MultiTenant
>
> Na Zhu/China/IBM wrote on 06/27/2016 10:21:33 PM:
>
> > From: Na Zhu/China/IBM
> > To: John McDowall <jmcdow...@paloaltonetworks.com>, Ryan Moats/
> Omaha/IBM@IBMUS
> > Cc: "dev@openvswitch.org" <dev@openvswitch.org>
> > Date: 06/27/2016 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovs-dev] SFC-Summary: MultiTenant
> >
> > Hi Ryan & John,
> >
> > For multi-tenancy use case, i think it is not allowed to boot VNF in
> > openstack that can be used by multiple tenants.
> > I am not clear about your concerns, can you clarify?
>
> If I can't support multi-tenant in a particular VNF, then the
> solution doesn't scale from a business perspective.
>
> The discussion about here is how does OVN support a multi-tenant
> VNF, independent of OpenStack.
>
> I've asked the same question of the networking-sfc spec as part
> of the review, because it has to be solved there as well.
>
> Ryan
>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Juno Zhu
> > IBM China Development Labs (CDL) Cloud IaaS Lab
> > Email: na...@cn.ibm.com
> > 5F, Building 10, 399 Keyuan Road, Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park, Pudong
> > New District, Shanghai, China (201203)
> >
> > From: John McDowall <jmcdow...@paloaltonetworks.com>
> > To: Ryan Moats <rmo...@us.ibm.com>
> > Cc: "dev@openvswitch.org" <dev@openvswitch.org>
> > Date: 2016/06/28 09:46
> > Subject: Re: [ovs-dev] SFC-Summary: MultiTenant
> > Sent by: "dev" <dev-boun...@openvswitch.org>
> >
> > Previous thread contents are here: http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/
> > dev/2016-June/073836.html
> >
> > Ryan,
> >
> > Trying to keep the thread to a single subject so we can knock them off.
> >
> > There are two cases for multi-tenancy:
> >
> >
> >   1.  The VNF is multi-tenant: This implies that a single VNF can
> > exist as a port-pair in multiple logical networks. For this to
> > happen the VNF has to support two features:
> >      *   Separate management planes so different tenants can manage
> > them independently
> >      *   Ability to handle overlapping IP-Address ranges in the
> > control and data planes.
> >   2.  The network can be logically separated into different segments
> > with overlapping IP address ranges. This is one of the functions of
> > OVS/OVN I thought or do I have a key mis-understanding? If a VNF has
> > its logical ports in the namespace of a specific logical switch then
> > there should be no barrier to multi-tenant networks - or am I
> > missing something fundamental?
> >
> > I think 1) is a vendor issue and while we can make it easy for them
> > they still need to do the work to separate the management/control
> > and data planes?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > John
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