On 25/05/2016 04:03, "Ilya Maximets" <i.maxim...@samsung.com> wrote:
>On 23.05.2016 17:55, Traynor, Kevin wrote: >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ilya Maximets [mailto:i.maxim...@samsung.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 4:09 PM >>> To: dev@openvswitch.org; Daniele Di Proietto <diproiet...@vmware.com> >>> Cc: Dyasly Sergey <s.dya...@samsung.com>; Heetae Ahn >>> <heetae82....@samsung.com>; Flavio Leitner <f...@sysclose.org>; >>> Traynor, Kevin <kevin.tray...@intel.com>; Pravin B Shelar >>> <pshe...@ovn.org>; Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@samsung.com> >>> Subject: [PATCH] netdev-dpdk: Fix PMD threads hang in >>> __netdev_dpdk_vhost_send(). >>> >>> There are situations when PMD thread can hang forever inside >>> __netdev_dpdk_vhost_send() because of broken virtqueue ring. >>> >>> This happens if rte_vring_available_entries() always positive and >>> rte_vhost_enqueue_burst() can't send anything (possible with broken >>> ring). >>> >>> In this case time expiration will be never checked and 'do {} while >>> (cnt)' >>> loop will be infinite. >>> >>> This scenario sometimes reproducible with dpdk-16.04-rc2 inside guest >>> VM. >>> Also it may be reproduced by manual braking of ring structure inside >>> the guest VM. >>> >>> Fix that by checking time expiration even if we have available >>> entries. >> >> Hi Ilya, > >Hi, Kevin. > >Christian and Thiago CC-ed, because, I think, they're faced with similar issue. > >> >> Thanks for catching this. This intersects with something else I've seen >> wrt retry code and there's a few options... >> >> 1. Remove retries when nothing sent. For the VM that needs retries it is a >> good thing to have, but Bhanu and I saw in a test with multiple VM's recently >> that if one VM causes a lot of retries there is a large performance >> degradation >> for the other VM's. So I changed the retry to only occur when at least one >> packet >> has been sent on the previous call. I put a patch up here. >> http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2016-May/071517.html >> >> If we keep retries we can either >> >> 2. Make more robust coordination between rte_ring_available_entries() and >> rte_vhost_enqueue_burst(), as per your patch. >> >> 3. As you've shown that we can't rely on the rte_ring_available_entries() to >> know we >> can enqueue, how about just remove it and use rte_vhost_enqueue_burst() >> directly >> in the retry loop. >> >> My preference would be for 1. because on balance I'd rather one VM did not >> degrade >> performance of others, more than I'd like it to have retries. Of course >> there could >> be some compromise between them as well i.e. reduce amount of retries, but >> any retries >> could affect performance for another path if they are using the same core. >> >> What do you think? > >I'm worry about scenarios with "pulsing" traffic, i.e. if we have not very big >but >enough amount of packets to overload vring in a short time and long period of >silence >after that. HW can keep in its RX queues much more packets than can be pushed >to >virtio ring. In this scenario, without retrying, most of packets will be >dropped. > >How about just decreasing of VHOST_ENQ_RETRY_USECS to, may be, 1 usec with my >fix >applied of course? Such interval should be enough to handle 20G traffic with >64B >packets by one PMD thread. And, also, this timeout may be applied to both cases >(something sent or not) to decrease cost of retrying. > >Best regards, Ilya Maximets. I haven't done any performance testing with many vms, but ... I think the retry logic was introduced because at the time NETDEV_MAX_BURST was 192 and we felt that batches of 192 packets could easily overload the guest ring. Now that NETDEV_MAX_BURST is only 32, I agree with Kevin on applying solution 1. Retries can degrade performance for other vms, which IMHO is worse than dropping packets destined for a "slow" receiver vm. Thanks, Daniele _______________________________________________ dev mailing list dev@openvswitch.org http://openvswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/dev