I don't really think this all that important.  Neither moving the
range that we allocate from nor making it discontinuous is that hard.
Like I said before, I don't really care that much.  33 is fine.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
> I can't argue with that.  We could add a way to query it, I guess, if
> really necessary.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 05:04:16PM -0700, Jesse Gross wrote:
>> I meant moving the group of fallback IDs would break things.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
>> > It wouldn't break the ABI to move either pool around, because those
>> > aren't hardcoded in userspace, only in the kernel. ??A discontinuous
>> > range would also work but wouldn't be necessary.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:55:56PM -0700, Jesse Gross wrote:
>> >> I guess the other thing is if we want to increase our pool of
>> >> preallocated multicast groups, we have to either break the ABI or make
>> >> the current pool discontinuous.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
>> >> > Personally I'd suggest 33 for this one and increment for each
>> >> > succeeding family. ??No one's ever mentioned a problem with our use of
>> >> > genetlink groups. ??Since RHEL5 is probably declining rather than
>> >> > increasing in deployment, my guess is that no one ever will.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:44:53PM -0700, Jesse Gross wrote:
>> >> >> Not really, I don't have any particular opinion on the actual number.
>> >> >> The only thing that I was concerned about is what it would look like
>> >> >> if we want to do this with the multicast groups for other families.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Ethan Jackson <et...@nicira.com> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Based on my offline discussions with Jesse I arrived, rather
>> >> >> > arbitrarily, at the number 214. ??I don't know enough about the 
>> >> >> > kernel
>> >> >> > to judge what a good number choice would be. ??Jesse seemed to think
>> >> >> > larger was better. ??I'll use whatever the two of you think is best.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ethan
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:31, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:10:55PM -0700, Ethan Jackson wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Where does the number 214 come from?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Experimentally I found that the number had to be fairly small. ??I
>> >> >> >>> wanted it to be large enough to be unlikely conflict to values the
>> >> >> >>> proper way. ??I also wanted a number which was arbitrary to avoid
>> >> >> >>> conflicting with other people who may be improperly hardcoding 
>> >> >> >>> values
>> >> >> >>> like this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We already use genetlink groups 16 through 31 (see
>> >> >> >> datapath/linux/compat/genetlink-openvswitch.c) and group 32 (see
>> >> >> >> datapath/linux/compat/genetlink-brcompat.c). ??I don't think it 
>> >> >> >> makes
>> >> >> >> sense to skip all the way to 214. ??Even in 2.6.37 I only see a 
>> >> >> >> total
>> >> >> >> of 11 defined genetlink multicast groups, so I doubt that anyone's
>> >> >> >> going to backport a bunch of them to RHEL 5.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>
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